would it feed in a lever action rifle ? (i think not)
would a .20 gauge pump action work a lot better?
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January 23, 2018, 12:20 PM
maladat
In what cartridge?
A lot of .45-70 loads use 300-400 grain bullets that aren't all that different in profile from a semiwadcutter.
I don't know about 20 gauge, but there are 12 gauge Winchester 1887 levergun clones available.
January 23, 2018, 12:54 PM
bendable
yeah but has anyone ever tried slug /waddcutter in one and had it work as its supposed to ?
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January 23, 2018, 01:24 PM
dusty3030
???? What cartridge are looking to load in or what are you trying to accomplish?
Your question is too vague to answer.
January 23, 2018, 01:40 PM
lyman
wadcutter as in shaped like a 38 wadcutter?
flush with the case rim?
if it will feed in a Colt 1911 or S&W 52, why would it not feed in a lever action rifle, say a mod 92?
it should,
swc's will
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January 23, 2018, 01:50 PM
myrottiety
quote:
Originally posted by dusty3030: ???? What cartridge are looking to load in or what are you trying to accomplish?
Your question is too vague to answer.
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January 23, 2018, 01:57 PM
apprentice
I'll go ahead and assume: You do mean 45-70. You don't mean wadcutter flush with the case mouth.
With those two assumptions I'd suggest visiting Buffalo Bore's website.
January 23, 2018, 02:03 PM
RogueJSK
If by "wadcutter", you just mean "solid lead with a flat point", then such loads are also available in .44 Magnum. And yes, it should feed in a lever gun.
January 23, 2018, 04:33 PM
arfmel
Some lever actions will give trouble feeding cartridges that are shorter in overall length than normal. I would guess that a cartridge loaded with a true wadcutter bullet seated flush with the case mouth wouldn't work in the Marlin .44 magnum I have, because it tries to double feed .44 special ammo loaded with a light weight SWC bullet.This message has been edited. Last edited by: arfmel,
January 23, 2018, 06:32 PM
cas
They make "ogival wad cutters" is some calibers/weights, but they probably wouldn't feed well either.
250gr Ogival Wad Cutter, 335gr Wide Long Nose, 340gr Wide Flat Nose (all .452")
A blurry 250gr .452" OWC and a 300gr .512" OWC
And an unnecessary picture of some out of order foster slugs, 16, 20, 12 & 10
(didn't see my 410 slug on the bench)
I've killed deer with both 45-70 and 20ga slugs and both worked like they're supposed to. This message has been edited. Last edited by: cas,
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January 24, 2018, 04:39 AM
Jelly
Don't recall ever seening a full waddcutter in 300 gr.- 325 gr that would feed in a lever rifle. However if you got something that large that needs a good kelling perhaps a Browning 10 gauge pump loaded with federal 3 1/2" 1 3/4 OZ / 765 grain .750 diameter slugs. I'm fairly certain you could roll a Tyrannosaurus rex at 80 yards with a 10 gauge slug if needed.
January 24, 2018, 02:21 PM
bendable
.38 spec. wadd cutters did not work reliably at all in my Win. lever action carbine
Cas , is that .20 gauge around 300 -325 grains?
that would work in a shotgun sabot , I think .
could you push that at 950 -1100 f.ps. ? out of a .20 ga ? w/o busting a shoulder?
and would you require a particular barrel to be accurate at 40-60 feet ?
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January 24, 2018, 03:27 PM
maladat
300 grains is about 5/8 of an ounce.
The standard 20ga bird hunting load is 7/8 ounces (about 380 grains) of shot at about 1200 fps.
I'm not a slug hunter, but from a physics perspective I don't see how a similar weight slug at a similar velocity would kick a lot more.
Why the specific interest in a wadcutter shaped bullet?
January 24, 2018, 04:25 PM
cas
That 20ga slug, a Remington IIRC weighs 353grs. (The Brenneke on the right weighs 370+)
Remington lists the muzzle velocity at 1580
Hornady makes "custom light" slugs in 20ga, 250gr.
"Hornady® Custom Lite® ammunition provides reduced recoil and muzzle blast from the most popular calibers, and puts the fun back into shooting for kids, women, and every shooter looking to keep recoil to a minimum while still enjoying the use of their favorite rifle.
Loaded with either the Hornady® SST® or InterLock® bullet, Custom Lite® ammunition is designed to deliver less felt recoil and a modified trajectory that still provides the accurate, deadly, and dependable performance you rely on from Hornady®."
"Shotgun enthusiasts will enjoy both 20 and 12 gauge offerings, delivering 25% less recoil than standard loads. For rifled barrels only. Our Custom Lite® Slugs feature 25%-40%+ Recoil Reduction Over Standard Loads."
About $2 a pop though.
1600fps at the muzzle. 1445 @ 50 1308 @ 100
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January 25, 2018, 07:22 AM
arfmel
I would guess that a special barrel isn't necessary for satisfactory accuracy at sixty feet. Anything less than full choke should be fine.
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January 25, 2018, 12:32 PM
bendable
no bears
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January 25, 2018, 09:16 PM
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February 07, 2018, 11:57 AM
bendable
what caliber would a 20 gauge sabot slug be with a micrometer?
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February 07, 2018, 02:02 PM
newmexican
Garrett cartridge has a 540g for the 45-70
February 07, 2018, 09:38 PM
apprentice
quote:
Originally posted by bendable: what caliber would a 20 gauge sabot slug be with a micrometer?