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https://www.brownells.com/fire...60300-prod93428.aspx

Anyone have one of these? I've got "several" real ARs, a few rimfires (including a scoped 10-22), and this looks like fun.

Two more issues: 1) I have not bought a single gun in 2017, and 2) I'll be driving by Brownells in ten days.

Will this work for fun - not precision - shooting?

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Posts: 15907 | Location: Eastern Iowa | Registered: May 21, 2000Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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A white zinc metal receiver in a cosmetic shell. Same internals as the Walther/HK 416D and MP5s. The fire control group is not interchangeable with real AR parts, the bolt isn’t designed to be removed, the BHO/release is cosmetic and non-functional, the barrel is actually a pencil barrel under a cosmetic barrel shroud, and the threading on the flash hider is nonstandard (the flash hider actually centers the muzzle end of the barrel in the barrel shroud). The S&W 15-22 is a much better 22 AR clone in my opinion, plus some parts like triggers, furniture, and muzzle devices are interchangeable with normal AR parts. The Sig 522 is also a better option.

That said, they seem to be relatively reliable and accurate, and are probably OK for a plinker if that’s all you want it for and aren’t interested in any upgrades.
 
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Why get this when you can get a S&W MP15-22?
 
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I got one several years ago thinking my grandsons would get a kick out of it. They did, but it’s more inline with junk than a real rifle. Dwillks description is right on target. Oh, and I bought mine used for $160! Can’t imagine $350.


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When I finally pick up a .22LR AR it will be the Smith & Wesson.

I agree with other posters. The "Colt" is junk and they should be ashamed to have their rollmark on that thing. The example I found had about a 15lb trigger pull.


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Posts: 5540 | Location: Greater Nashville, TN | Registered: May 11, 2004Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Had one. Avoid if possible. Junk is a good description.


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Thanks for the replies. I like the looks of the Colt, but I did not know it was so unreliable.

A pal has the S&W, I'll shoot that sometime
 
Posts: 15907 | Location: Eastern Iowa | Registered: May 21, 2000Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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An other vote for the 15-22, mine has about 18000 rounds through and it's reliable and fun.
 
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Another vote for the S&W 15-22.

It is reliable, accurate and functions like a regular AR so it's a suitable as a trainer.
 
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Talk about timely post. Was at a gunshow today and saw one and liked its looks. Was thinking about going back and getting it tomorrow. Think you saved me some money.



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+42 for the Smith,

had one for about 10 yrs, and it works as intended,

did switch out the trigger for a better AR trigger, and added a PA dot,



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Posts: 10417 | Location: Beach VA,not VA Beach | Registered: July 17, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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...and saw one and liked its looks...


That is what got my attention, Colt looks like a "real" AR, the S&W not so much. But who wants to buy a POS.
 
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https://www.brownells.com/rifl...-kits-prod54549.aspx

Does anyone have one of these adapter kits? I have "multiple" ARs and using one primarily for 22LR wold not deplete my, er...tactical capabilities.
 
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I have Ciener-copy from CMMG, it works great. I probably haven't shot .223/556 out of that DPMS AR in about 3 years, but it's had a ton of .22 through it.
Gets dirty & I don't know what the chamber insert is doing to the barrel, but it's a cheap AR anyway - the wife loves it.
Mine came with the all-plastic BDM mags, which are junk after a while. They replaced them with their nylon-insert mags at no cost & I bought a couple metal-insert mags. All's been well after that.
 
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I have a both a Ciener kit and a USGI M261 kit,

both work well, with out a hiccup,

the 261 kit and mini mags would give me quarter sized groups out of a skinny barrel 1:9 barrel at the indoor range I used to frequent (offhand practice),



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Posts: 10417 | Location: Beach VA,not VA Beach | Registered: July 17, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Thanks for all the replies. I just ordered the CMMG kit and another mag, I'll do a range report in a few weeks.
 
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This did not work in my Armalite 16" and I just sent it back to Brownells:

https://www.brownells.com/rifl...-kits-prod54549.aspx

Read all the instructions and took it to the range, out of a 25 rd mag all of two rounds went downrange, many others jammed. I do not have the patience to fix it, for the first time I'll use the Brownells return program and get a refund. They gave me a free shipping label and it'll go back tomorrow.
 
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I had one of those adapters and sold it off.

$200 for what it is compared to a complete rifle like a 10/22 for roughly the same money.


It worked pretty well but the novelty wore off.

Height over bore issues make 22lr ARs problematic for small game hunting. Fun plinker, or as a trainer to get a kid ready to eventually shoot an AR, pretty good fit.


If I were going to get one again I would probably get one of the dedicated 22lr uppers.
 
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S&W MP-15/22 is far superior.
 
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Originally posted by LDD:
Why get this when you can get a S&W MP15-22?


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This. I have a S&W MP15-22 that has been superb. I even used it at an Appleseed Project multi-day training event without any issues. I also like that unlike other AR-22s it functions just like an AR-15 when it comes to controls.


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