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I saw a 1944 MG42 at a local gun show. The vendor was asking something like $32K for it. I think if I had lots of cash sitting around, I would go for it. Even if I only shot it occasionally, it would be a great show piece in my dream gun room.


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You need to ask yourself the following questions. The answers will guild your actions.

1) What is my budget?
2) Are you a meat hunter or trophy hunter?
3) What do you enjoy doing the most; shoot or show?
4) Do you enjoy tinkering or do you just want something that 'works first time, every time'?
5) Do you intend to have friends and family enjoy your new toy too?


6) Do you have somewhere to store cases of ammo? Big Grin


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32K is a great price these days if it was in decent shape. Most I see if they are German not Yugo's run 40K or more.
 
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I would think full autos are like boats. If you can afford it great. Buts its always better to have a friend who owns a boat.


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A few years ago I had a windfall come my way ... after mulling it over I decided I wanted an M16 and a registered HK sear, at the time they were almost exactly the same price and both have doubled in value ... makes me consider selling one.

I already had a MP5 SBR that I rarely shot ... the fun wore off pretty quickly in semi but it came back with the sear ... I now have hosts in 9mm, 223(which is my favorite) 7.62x39 and 308 ... and while it is an impressive fire breathing dragon (very impressive at dusk), the 308 is my least favorite.

For the M16 I've bought a 3-round burst trigger as well as many different uppers ... I have uppers in 22LR, 5.7x28, several configurations in 223 from 8.5" up to and including my 20" Colt LMG plus an Ares Defense Belt fed with the 12.5" and 16" barrels, I have a 7.62x39, 10" 9mm and 300BO in 8" through 16" and all run pretty smoothly except the belt-fed ... I just have to remember to put the correct buffer and spring in it, the others aren't too picky.

I've been an HK fan for as long as I can remember but if you can only get one, get the M16 Its a lot less expensive than buying hosts for the HK Sear, and they would be even less now with the AR market crashing!

You can configure the M16 so that anyone can shoot it and get the full-otto experience


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Look at a Cobray/SWD M11/9. Fun as hell stock, but not "practical" with a 1200 rpm rate of fire and limited use sights. But you can get a Lage mfg slow-fire upper that has great sights and a pic rail, forward rail, side charging, etc. and any muzzle attachment you want. about 4 grand all in last time I checked. I have had my M11/9 for about 20 years and paid a grand for it back in the 90s. INCLUDING THE TAX. Plus you can get 22 conversions for it and shoot it cheap. Lage makes both a conversion that works with the OEM upper and a conversion that works with the Lage upper if you choose to go that route. By far the least cost of entry into the full-auto world.

Check out the rate of fire on this puppy. LOL

https://youtu.be/R8YvI_pfL4A
https://youtu.be/qLfxPKRLwQQ

22 conversion slows it down some
https://youtu.be/4SqFJosMmN4



M11 Lage upper info
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Eb4Nj6ywfU


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I have been buying MGs for the last 15 years and started shooting them about 20 years ago. The novelty has not worn off.

I have factory Colt M16s, S&H sear converted FNC, DLO HK frame, Fleming HK sear, and vector UZI. If I had to choose one transferable it would be a registered HK trigger frame (fire control "box") or HK sear. While the cost of entry and hosts are high, these give you the option of SMGs in 9/357SIG/40/45, compact, mid and full size assault rifle in 5.56/300BO/762x39, compact and full size 308 battle rifle, beltfed in 5.56 and 308. The versatility is unparalleled.

Because of this versatility and due to the fact that the MP5 remains the most iconic SMG around and is still in widespread use, the HK frame and/or sear are climbing in value at a rate faster than all other transferables.

At the end of the day, you should buy whatever piques your interest the most.


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If I had to choose one transferable it would be a registered HK trigger frame (fire control "box") or HK sear. While the cost of entry and hosts are high, these give you the option of SMGs in 9/357SIG/40/45, compact, mid and full size assault rifle in 5.56/300BO/762x39, compact and full size 308 battle rifle, beltfed in 5.56 and 308. The versatility is unparalleled.


+1.. What Josh said. If only there were Sig Arms registered sears.. Frown


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+1.. What Josh said. If only there were Sig Arms registered sears.. Frown


There are apparently a handful of transferable 550s that were registered prior to the ban. From what I've been told, these were imported as ssniautos for LE evaluation and were converted by slotting the rail prior to 5/19/86. I have never seen one come up for sale and I suspect when one does it will go to James Julia and probably sell for $60-90k.


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Because of this versatility and due to the fact that the MP5 remains the most iconic SMG around and is still in widespread use, the HK frame and/or sear are climbing in value at a rate faster than all other transferables.


You make some good points about the H&K. But I am not sure the MP5 is the most iconic SMG around. What about a Thompson or an MP40? I also think there are a lot more people that could identify the Uzi that the Secret Service agent had when Reagan was shot, then would know an MP5.
 
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Because of this versatility and due to the fact that the MP5 remains the most iconic SMG around and is still in widespread use, the HK frame and/or sear are climbing in value at a rate faster than all other transferables.


You make some good points about the H&K. But I am not sure the MP5 is the most iconic SMG around. What about a Thompson or an MP40? I also think there are a lot more people that could identify the Uzi that the Secret Service agent had when Reagan was shot, then would know an MP5.


Depends on the generation. An Uzi or Mini Uzi is very recognizable but remember, about twenty years' worth of action movies and TV shows (probably more) heavily featured the MP5. And let's not forget video games.

The Thompson and MP40 are WWII icons and are probably in today's public's consciousness due to WWII and Prohibition movies.


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With the Omega MP5 SD I recently bought I may have to change my vote from the M16 to the HK registered sear.

The only conversions I don't have for the HK platform is the 22LR and a beltfed, of which I have both for the M16 ... the allure of an MP5 SD is strong.



I'm not sure if it's as strong as an M16 beltfed thought ... Although the last price I saw on Gunbroker for a Michaels Machine (HK) 23E was $17K IIRC, but maybe he was just shooting for the moon because when I talked to Michael about a year ago, he said he'd build me one for $12K ... But my Ares Defense was $4K with the lite 16" barrel and semi auto bolt carrier that it came with, then I added a 12" MG barrel and F/A bolt carrier ... It wasn't the HK I really wanted but it was 1/3 the price and it scratched the itch!



I hope I never have to choose!


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