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Poll: 1/3 co-witness or absolute?

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June 13, 2017, 07:46 PM
Jus228
Poll: 1/3 co-witness or absolute?
Absolute. On my AR the sights are high enough as it is and I have flip down buis or none at all.


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June 13, 2017, 09:56 PM
sigfreund
quote:
Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
It's nice to have the less-cluttered sight picture that comes with using a red dot and folded-down irons but ....


I agree, and admit I didn’t understand what you were getting at.
My “CQB” ARs (training and serious) both have fixed front sights and with a 1/3 view I have never had any problem using them with Aimpoint sights as fast as I could acquire targets. As I mentioned above, I am simply unaware of the iron sights.

And as a somewhat related note, something I have my students practice is using their nonmagnifying optics (Aimpoints, EOTechs, et al.) with the illuminated reticle turned off and no rear BUIS. I just center the target in the “window,” but some shooters like to use the visible front sight (without the rear) as an index even without a rear sight to align it with. With both techniques it’s possible to get reasonably accurate hits on short range targets (to about 15 yards).




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June 22, 2017, 01:48 PM
apprentice
Update:
Bought a Holosun HS503GU and just finished mounting it 1/3.

That's how it came set up, and it does seem like a good way to go now that I've looked through it that way. It did come with a low mount, and a battery as well, in case anyone was wondering.

Hope things shoot straight, still need to find out.

Thanks for the responses.
June 22, 2017, 11:54 PM
mrmn50
Tried both and have settled on lower 1/3.
June 23, 2017, 06:11 PM
GrumpyBiker
For me it depends on the ARs set up.
I prefer lower 1/3 for ARs with a fixed front sight & absolute with BUIS odd as that may sound.




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September 23, 2017, 10:27 PM
Riley
Bump.




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September 23, 2017, 10:52 PM
cslinger
I like true co-witness. If all goes wrong the red dot becomes a giant ghost ring.

That being said I am no gunfighter nor girlscout and have no desire to run my guns as weapons ever. This is just a low speed, high drag hobbiest's perspective.


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September 25, 2017, 04:20 PM
matthew03
Just don't do what I did, Trijicon MRO and Micro BUIS, the BUIS are 1/2 on, 1/2 under the optic. I can barely see the top nub of the front sight post through the rear aperture and optic.


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September 26, 2017, 08:13 PM
DoctorSolo
quote:
Originally posted by GrumpyBiker:
For me it depends on the ARs set up.
I prefer lower 1/3 for ARs with a fixed front sight & absolute with BUIS odd as that may sound.


Not odd at all. Quite reasonable.
September 29, 2017, 12:31 PM
Gundawg
IF running a AR with a permanent front sight post/gas block, i prefer 1/3. If running flip up sights, back and front i like absolute.


Edit: i see Grumpy feels the same, had not read his post before posting or would have just said same.


September 29, 2017, 01:35 PM
konata88
Irons are fixed height. I'm only varying the RDS mount height. The lower 1/3 mount is more comfortable for me. Absolute feels low for my chubby cheeks.

Either way, I don't see the front sight as I'm looking well past it. So 1/3 is more comfortable and that's the primary influence.




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September 29, 2017, 09:35 PM
9mmepiphany
quote:
Originally posted by GrumpyBiker:
For me it depends on the ARs set up.
I prefer lower 1/3 for ARs with a fixed front sight & absolute with BUIS odd as that may sound.

Not odd at all, that is my preferred setup also




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November 27, 2017, 06:42 AM
Riley
I went back and forth but ended up with 1/3 with a standard front sight post and DD A1.5 rear sight.

I really liked the absolute, but what got me back to 1/3 was shooting in the dark and especially off hand. For me, it was easier to shoot offhand with the higher mount of 1/3, especially around a barrier/wall.




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November 28, 2017, 07:33 AM
njauto
Absolute with folding front/rear sights.
November 28, 2017, 09:28 AM
Strambo
Not sure I mentioned this before, lower 1/3rd works better with a squared up, heads up, CQB style fighting stance.

The iron sight height is a little low for that IMO, but just right for prone shooting.




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December 01, 2017, 07:41 PM
sigproshooter
I personally prefer absolute with folding sights so you can get a good cheekweld on the stock, as opposed to the chinweld you get with a lower 1/3rd mount.