So I now have this AR in 458SOCOM....

September 18, 2018, 08:29 PM

And I need some plinking ammo.

Gunbot came up with midwayusa for about $2.90/rd. I know this stuff isn’t cheap and that I really need to reload for it, but I have to start somewhere.

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September 18, 2018, 09:25 PM

RHINOWSO

quote:
Originally posted by hudr:
And I need some plinking ammo.
Gunbot came up with midwayusa for about $2.90/rd. I know this stuff isn’t cheap and that I really need to reload for it, but I have to start somewhere.

Normally something I think about BEFORE I take on another caliber...

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September 19, 2018, 02:18 PM

hudr

quote:
Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
quote:
Originally posted by hudr:
And I need some plinking ammo.
Gunbot came up with midwayusa for about $2.90/rd. I know this stuff isn’t cheap and that I really need to reload for it, but I have to start somewhere.

Normally something I think about BEFORE I take on another caliber...

I just got out of 45-70, so....I think it'll do fine for thinning out the turtles in my ponds.

September 19, 2018, 10:27 PM

fritz

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Originally posted by hudr:
I think it'll do fine for thinning out the turtles in my ponds.

I've shot turtles in a pond from a high angle. As from a helicopter.

55 grain 223 bullets are more than adequate for turtles. The guys using ball ammo made quick work of turtles, even with off-center hits. Lots of water in the air, with parts flying.

I shot them with 55 grain VMax bullets. Spectacular splashes of turtle parts, fountain-like water eruption, nice turtle-parts slick on the surface.

You don't need 458 -- 223 does it for substantially less cost per round, less recoil, possibly greater accuracy, and greater expansion in a small critter.

September 23, 2018, 06:07 PM

walker77

quote:
Originally posted by hudr:
quote:
Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
quote:
Originally posted by hudr:
And I need some plinking ammo.
Gunbot came up with midwayusa for about $2.90/rd. I know this stuff isn’t cheap and that I really need to reload for it, but I have to start somewhere.

Normally something I think about BEFORE I take on another caliber...

I just got out of 45-70, so....I think it'll do fine for thinning out the turtles in my ponds.

Your turtles must be the size of elephants

September 23, 2018, 09:02 PM

Bisleyblackhawk

quote:
Originally posted by walker77:
quote:
Originally posted by hudr:
quote:
Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
quote:
Originally posted by hudr:
And I need some plinking ammo.
Gunbot came up with midwayusa for about $2.90/rd. I know this stuff isn’t cheap and that I really need to reload for it, but I have to start somewhere.

Normally something I think about BEFORE I take on another caliber...

I just got out of 45-70, so....I think it'll do fine for thinning out the turtles in my ponds.

Your turtles must be the size of elephants

September 24, 2018, 07:53 AM

myrottiety

quote:
Originally posted by hudr:
quote:
Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
quote:
Originally posted by hudr:
And I need some plinking ammo.
Gunbot came up with midwayusa for about $2.90/rd. I know this stuff isn’t cheap and that I really need to reload for it, but I have to start somewhere.

Normally something I think about BEFORE I take on another caliber...

I just got out of 45-70, so....I think it'll do fine for thinning out the turtles in my ponds.

If you miss they'll probably red mist from the water pressure!

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November 04, 2018, 07:32 AM

WARPIG602

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Originally posted by ArtieS:
[thread drift]Um, why shoot turtles?[thread drift]

This is a curiosity question, not a moral one.

Probably a nuisance in his area.

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November 04, 2018, 10:09 AM

gearhounds

You'll need to be reloading if you're serious about shooting this beast regularly. Starline is excellent brass.

https://www.starlinebrass.com/...ses/458-SOCOM-Brass/