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what FA SMG to get?
October 19, 2019, 10:14 PM
JoshNCwhat FA SMG to get?
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Originally posted by P210:
An MP-40 would be nice, or a Thompson.
Thompsons are awesome. Until you shoot one. I frequently get to wanting a nice war time 28, then I shoot one and I lose all interest.
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October 19, 2019, 10:36 PM
Ironworkerquote:
Originally posted by JoshNC:
quote:
Originally posted by P210:
An MP-40 would be nice, or a Thompson.
Thompsons are awesome. Until you shoot one. I frequently get to wanting a nice war time 28, then I shoot one and I lose all interest.
Why? What causes you to lose all interest?
October 19, 2019, 10:54 PM
JoshNCquote:
Originally posted by Ironworker:
Why? What causes you to lose all interest?
They are heavy, unergonomic, and clunky. The 28 weighs around 10 lbs unloaded. That’s a heavy SMG. I will likely still pick up a transferable wartime 28 at some point to round out my collection.
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"AND YEA THOUGH THE HINDUS SPEAK OF KARMA, I IMPLORE YOU...GIVE HER A BREAK, LORD". - Clark W. Griswald
October 20, 2019, 01:00 AM
P210quote:
Originally posted by JoshNC:
quote:
Originally posted by Ironworker:
Why? What causes you to lose all interest?
They are heavy, unergonomic, and clunky. The 28 weighs around 10 lbs unloaded. That’s a heavy SMG. I will likely still pick up a transferable wartime 28 at some point to round out my collection.
I don’t think Kampfhamster is interested in something to carry around or use on daily basis, but like you is wanting to round out a collection. Both the Thompsons and MP-40 are iconic and likely to be obtainable in his country at relatively reasonable prices in decent condition, as would a Sten for that matter.
October 20, 2019, 06:19 AM
DLC762My first mg was an Uzi that I converted myself.
Had a few others over the years but the Uzi is my favorite.
Best comment I ever read about the Uzi....
"Built and handles like a brick. Way too heavy. Ergonomics suck and the grip feels like a 2x4. I love the UZI."
All that being said, I've shot a friends Sterling and if I had to pick, I'd go with the Sterling....first, and then an Uzi!
Here's mine.
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October 20, 2019, 12:39 PM
KampfhamsterIt's been a while since I have fired a SMG, but the Sterling and the MP40 were among the smoothest running guns.
I'd say the Uzi is overrated, but still a very very good gun, that I consider buying just for it's simplicity and history.
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October 20, 2019, 12:41 PM
JoshNCquote:
Originally posted by DLC762:
My first mg was an Uzi that I converted myself.
Had a few others over the years but the Uzi is my favorite.
Best comment I ever read about the Uzi....
"Built and handles like a brick. Way too heavy. Ergonomics suck and the grip feels like a 2x4. I love the UZI."
All that being said, I've shot a friends Sterling and if I had to pick, I'd go with the Sterling....first, and then an Uzi!
Here's mine.
Nice Uzi. I have two full-size UZI SMGs and I do love them. They are sort of heavy (still about half the weight of a Thompson) but very smooth shooting once you speed them up a bit with a buffer. Mine are mostly relegated to the back of the safe, as I prefer my MP5 SMGs for shooting. The Sterling is very smooth and has the very best SMG magazine design ever made in my opinion. I follishly passed up a transferable Sterling at a crazy good price around 2005. I would still choose the Swedish K over a Sterling. Just as smooth with the option to run drums.
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"AND YEA THOUGH THE HINDUS SPEAK OF KARMA, I IMPLORE YOU...GIVE HER A BREAK, LORD". - Clark W. Griswald
October 20, 2019, 12:41 PM
KampfhamsterOr I take the plunge and go for something bigger...
Including all the spare barrels, tools and accessoires that I would want it would be over 10k though.
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October 20, 2019, 01:22 PM
GreymannFrom your link, I'd choose the Sig 553.
October 20, 2019, 01:33 PM
KampfhamsterAlready have a 553LB, but in semi, no need for another one in FA
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October 20, 2019, 01:55 PM
JoshNCDefinitely go for the 240.
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"AND YEA THOUGH THE HINDUS SPEAK OF KARMA, I IMPLORE YOU...GIVE HER A BREAK, LORD". - Clark W. Griswald
October 20, 2019, 02:39 PM
jimmy123xquote:
Originally posted by JoshNC:
quote:
Originally posted by P210:
An MP-40 would be nice, or a Thompson.
Thompsons are awesome. Until you shoot one. I frequently get to wanting a nice war time 28, then I shoot one and I lose all interest.
I've shot a Thompson and I liked it. I felt it handled recoil very well and the cycling speed was just right where you could easily keep it on target for 10 +/- round bursts. A regular at the range owns it and happened to be next to me, I asked him if he could shoot it, and his response was yeah, you buy the ammo and load the magazines. I was so excited that I didn't notice whether it was heavy or not...... The only other SMG I've shot was a .45 MAC 10, and in comparison that was an utter handful.
If only I was in the OP's situation......in 9mm I'd probably go with an MP 5, or an UZI. I like how you can change calibers with the same receiver and shoot .22 LR if you want to. A COLT AR in 9mm would be fun too (I've shot one of those in 3 round bursts).
October 20, 2019, 11:01 PM
sigNullThere's always the American 180, 22 LR full auto
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October 20, 2019, 11:16 PM
arcwelderWith all due respect, why are you trolling?
Your laws aren't the same as ours, and unless we live there, how can we provide an accurate response?
About all we know is cheese and "neutrality."
Arc.
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October 20, 2019, 11:21 PM
357fuzzLancaster!!!!!!
If not a Beretta M1938, Grease Gun, or a Walther MPL/MPK.
October 21, 2019, 10:32 AM
Kampfhamsterquote:
Originally posted by arcwelder76:
With all due respect, why are you trolling?
Your laws aren't the same as ours, and unless we live there, how can we provide an accurate response?
About all we know is cheese and "neutrality."
I admit, there's a bit of trolling involved.
The situation over here is just way different, but we can still get everything we can pay for. It's still an interesting question, don't you think?
The citizen watches the watchman, not the taxpayer.
October 21, 2019, 10:48 AM
RogueJSKquote:
Originally posted by 357fuzz:
Lancaster!!!!!!
Methinks you mean
Lanchester. (There's no such thing as a Lancaster SMG... Although there's a Lancaster bomber.)
But yes. Lanchester. Because the only thing better than a full auto 9mm is a full auto 9mm
with a 17" sword bayonet.
October 21, 2019, 11:31 AM
RogueJSKquote:
Originally posted by JoshNC:
quote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
A great gun with a terrible stock
The Swede stock is a bit unsightly, but it feels fine when you’re shooting.
I had the chance to fire one ~15-20 years ago. (Caveat: I'm about 80% sure it was a Swedish K, but it may have been a S&W 76, the American-made quasi-clone.)
The stock was quite flimsy, and had so much side-to-side play that the gun flopped around laterally when firing while shouldered.
But that may have just been that one example, if it had something like an overly worn stock mechanism.
October 21, 2019, 09:17 PM
JoshNCquote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK
I had the chance to fire one ~15-20 years ago. (Caveat: I'm about 80% sure it was a Swedish K, but it may have been a S&W 76, the American-made quasi-clone.)
The stock was quite flimsy, and had so much side-to-side play that the gun flopped around laterally when firing while shouldered.
But that may have just been that one example, if it had something like an overly worn stock mechanism.
Sounds like a s&w 76 or MK 760. The 760 has one of the flimsiest stocks I’ve ever handled. The Swede K stock is fine and locks up pretty tight.
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"AND YEA THOUGH THE HINDUS SPEAK OF KARMA, I IMPLORE YOU...GIVE HER A BREAK, LORD". - Clark W. Griswald
October 23, 2019, 10:03 AM
lymanquote:
Originally posted by jimmy123x:
quote:
Originally posted by JoshNC:
quote:
Originally posted by P210:
An MP-40 would be nice, or a Thompson.
Thompsons are awesome. Until you shoot one. I frequently get to wanting a nice war time 28, then I shoot one and I lose all interest.
I've shot a Thompson and I liked it. I felt it handled recoil very well and the cycling speed was just right where you could easily keep it on target for 10 +/- round bursts. A regular at the range owns it and happened to be next to me, I asked him if he could shoot it, and his response was yeah, you buy the ammo and load the magazines. I was so excited that I didn't notice whether it was heavy or not...... The only other SMG I've shot was a .45 MAC 10, and in comparison that was an utter handful.
If only I was in the OP's situation......in 9mm I'd probably go with an MP 5, or an UZI. I like how you can change calibers with the same receiver and shoot .22 LR if you want to. A COLT AR in 9mm would be fun too (I've shot one of those in 3 round bursts).
I have a M1A1, and like it,
shoots very well, and controllable once you get used to it and use a hasty sling (short bursts are your friend)
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