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B&T APC 9MM

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April 03, 2021, 10:12 PM
usncorpsman
B&T APC 9MM
I have wanted one of these for a long time and finally talked my buddy out of one (he had 3). This one came set up as you see it with the Aimpoint micro. I had read many times how accurate these guns are and this one does not disappoint. Groups at 25yds were mostly through the same hole. The Swiss build some damn fine machines.


April 04, 2021, 07:08 AM
shoevb
Nice gun. I had a Ghm9 and always wanted to step up to one of these. I'm very jealous. Have fun shooting it.
April 04, 2021, 08:19 AM
DCFD4
Very recently picked up the APC9K Pro with Glock and B&T lowers and have been very impressed.
April 04, 2021, 10:12 AM
patw
Congrats,that is very cool. I like the three lug on the barrel. Gives it a newer/different vibe.
April 04, 2021, 12:50 PM
Lt CHEG
She’s a beauty for sure. I love my HK SP5 and SP5k, but in my heart of hearts I actually think my APC9 is a better gun. I love them all equally in their own way, but the B&T guns really are special.




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April 04, 2021, 03:58 PM
hrcjon
I love these B&T's. Too bad they are so hard to get generally, and of course expensive. But save your pennies and get the B&T telescoping brace and the APC is as perfect as you can get in this type of firearm.


“So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.”
April 04, 2021, 06:43 PM
Kampfhamster
Great concept, if only their QC would be better. It's not really up to what we are used to, and they're asking a swiss quality price, so....


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April 04, 2021, 06:50 PM
hrcjon
Interesting comment. I have quite a few of these apc’s and had no issues in many rounds. What problems might there be?


“So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.”
April 04, 2021, 06:56 PM
Lefty Sig
Can you get an aftermarket safety lever? Even though it is ambi, it's not great for a left handed person due to the lever size and bias for right handed use. Also, are the B&T mags any better now? I heard about some issues.
April 04, 2021, 07:47 PM
hrcjon
There are aftermarket charging (for sure) and safety levers I think but I have no idea if they fix what bothers you personally as I’m a righty and all is fine. The apc mags have not given me any trouble but what is great about the gun is can run Glock or Sig so that’s mostly what I do. Fully agree the aftermarket is nothing like cz or ar9 but the gun itself is like a different category from the get go. If it has some deficiencies that matter to you then it’s not the best option. But as I said I have run a lot of rounds and compared to the zillion other things I own I like it the best.


“So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.”
April 05, 2021, 10:47 AM
Tejas421
That looks nice. Where is a good place to look for one? I've been thinking about getting one for a while but haven't seen any in my neck of the woods.
April 05, 2021, 02:18 PM
Loswsmith
You've got some great buddies!! The Kidd, this, the STIs; I wish my buddies had such good taste.


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April 06, 2021, 10:02 AM
10X-Shooter
Dakota Tactical
Tar Heel State Firearms
Cleveland Shooting Sports in Cleveland TN to name a few.
April 06, 2021, 10:03 AM
10X-Shooter
quote:
Originally posted by Tejas421:
That looks nice. Where is a good place to look for one? I've been thinking about getting one for a while but haven't seen any in my neck of the woods.

You might also try Franklins southwest of Nashville.
April 06, 2021, 04:20 PM
hrcjon
If you mean local purchase I have no idea. I have bought all of mine from Tar Heel State firearms and europtic. Both highly recommended. THSF is extra great as they will engrave it for you.


“So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.”
April 07, 2021, 09:57 AM
Kampfhamster
quote:
Originally posted by hrcjon:
Interesting comment. I have quite a few of these apc’s and had no issues in many rounds. What problems might there be?


buddy of mine had problems with his 9mm suppressor. Also there are a few APC-556 that have reliability issues.

The magazines of my TP9 break easy. So far the costumer service is great, they replace the broken ones no questions asked. But it's still annoying.


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April 07, 2021, 10:54 PM
hrcjon
Would be interesting to know where and how you are breaking these mags?


“So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.”
April 08, 2021, 11:02 AM
Kampfhamster
The one, I accidently dropped on a concrete floor. Floorplate broke.

On others (not mine), the feed lips wore out when using a APC9-SD.


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April 08, 2021, 02:45 PM
Belgian Blue
The lowers which accept Glock magazines might be the solution to such issues.

Eric, Iraq Veteran 8888 came to this conclusion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woQz2OjkNzw
April 08, 2021, 03:18 PM
Tejas421
quote:
Originally posted by 10X-Shooter:
Dakota Tactical
Tar Heel State Firearms
Cleveland Shooting Sports in Cleveland TN to name a few.


Thanks for the pointer.