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This is my "Chinese Made Winchester" or "Chinchester" model 1897 in 12 gauge.

I bought it from Classic Old West Guns, who get the guns with Coyote Cap Action jobs and then send them out to be hard chromed. I can't believe how slick it is!



















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Very nice...I'm betting its one slick '97 Smile


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Very nice!
My blue version should be here about the 18Th.
Thanks to you guidance, I think I made a good choice and looking forward to getting started with CAS!
 
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Nice!


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Nice!!

Do they sell one in blue?


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Looks very nice only problem is they end up more expensive than a good condition original!
 
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Do they sell one in blue?


Yes. They even make the "Trench gun" model with heat shield and bayonet lug. But the Trench gun isn't legal for Cowboy Action.




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What is the quality like, and do the parts between the clones and real deal interchange? I have been wanting a trench gun for years
 
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What is the quality like, and do the parts between the clones and real deal interchange? I have been wanting a trench gun for years



The quality is good. I don't believe many of the parts interchange, but the #1 1897 authority in the country went over to the factory in China and instructed them in how to build them right. He also still works with them on quality issues and helps test materials. Stocks are Walnut and not "palette wood" as their first ones were before he got involved. Parts are readily available, but I've not known many that have ever broken even with the abuse Cowboy guns get.




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I checked and my buddy SOLD the Trench gun he had for sale.

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There's something you don't see everyday. I'm all for stainless lever guns. I'd considered those Chincesters but never thought about hard chrome. Nice improvement. I'd be interested to know how reliable it runs after a year or so.
 
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I'd be interested to know how reliable it runs after a year or so.


I had a blued one that I shot off and on for years.

I know people who have had the chromed ones for years and don't report any issues.




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I'd be interested to know how reliable it runs after a year or so.


I had a blued one that I shot off and on for years.

I know people who have had the chromed ones for years and don't report any issues.


The design is incredibly robust. I think I mentioned that years ago I read that Winchester had a '97 at their ammo plant they used for testing shotshells and the thing fired over 1 MILLION rounds in the course of its service. No idea how many parts were replaced over that time.


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Until I decided I wanted to get into SASS more, I just took the heat shield/bayonet lug off my trench gun and used it. Cowboy loads won't hurt an original 1897 that has been cared for.
 
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Mine arrived last week but I've been out of town. Just picked up today and it is better than I expected. Nicely done, Coyote Cap job has made it smooth and the walnut is nicely figured. I'm impressed.

While picking up noticed the shop had the new blued Ruger Shopkeeper...that has been on my list and after a bit of back and forth picked that up too. Now to get them out to the range. At some point plan to find the time to start up with the action shooting ...Okeechobee north of us apparently has a few shoots.

Thanks to Rolan for posting and giving me the idea!










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Very nice FlyingScot.
Still waiting on my blued version...maybe Wednesday.
 
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Very cool. I shot mine in the match yesterday. It wasn't pretty. But I mainly bought this for Wild Bunch.




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Do they sell one in blue?


Yes. They even make the "Trench gun" model with heat shield and bayonet lug. But the Trench gun isn't legal for Cowboy Action.

I bought one of the IAC trench guns a few years ago from a guy in our gun club. Love the vintage trench gun looks. The Winchesters are too spendy for my interests right now. This one scratched that itch for me.
I like that you can hold the trigger and rack the slide and it keeps going!

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Looks great How much did the chrome job cost? I just picked up a fairly well used 1897 dirt cheap at a small gun show this weekend. It's my first 1897, in fact I think it is the first one I've ever even handled. Seems pretty solid but I'm not sure what I'll do with it, but it sure could look better.

 
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Not sure on the chrome cost as it was a package deal. Gun, Action work, and Chroming on new gun for $895.




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