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He's looking at taking any of the larger game that's available there. I mentioned the usual, Browning,CZ,Winchester in calibers ranging from 7mm to .338 but he mentioned he has a messed up rotator cuff and was wanting to know of an AR platform with a caliber that would do it all. I'm familiar with the AR10 style up to a .308. What other options are out there(.458 Socom might be too much).
 
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There is a .450 Bushmaster and a .375 SOCOM (458 necked down to 375) but I don't know if they would deliver any less thump to his shoulder.

In the AR-10 platform, I believe you can get plenty of hunting loads, though for big Alaskan game, you'd probably be limited to .338 Federal or .358 Win.



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Does he want to shoot big bears??? Or just get anmoose and a few caribou every year and maybe take a trip to hunt blacktails once in awhile???

The Winchester 70 30-06 is the “official” gun of Alaska and it works for all of that stuff.

I don’t know anyhMthint about ARs so I can’t help with that. But seems like one in 308 would be ok, or even just a nice 8lb rifle in 308 shouldn’t kick that bad and would be fine for everything up here.

Before I moved to AK I thought everybody would have 338wm, 375HH, 416rigby etc etc, but that’s just not the reality, people have those but most of them Do t seem to get used much. I have a few 375s and I’m not even sure I’d take it for a serious bear hunt.
 
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AR10 can be had any pretty much any caliber imaginable. Nemo has a 300WM among others. If recoil is a problem, the typical calibers used for big game will also likely be an issue. I have a feeling hes going to have to decide whats more important. If dangerous or very large game arent on the menu, Id look at a AR10 in 6.5CM or possinly .243.


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Depends on what he feels is a thumping. I have a DTA 338LM that feels about like a 308 maybe a bit better with a good break. Maybe an autoloader like a BAR in 30-06? That gives you plenty of gun and a gas system to soak it up.
 
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No matter what route he goes, get a good brake. They are loud, but knock off a good bit of felt recoil. If a bolt gun, then also suggest a better recoil pad. When I was doing gunsmithing full time I did a ton of hunting guns for those with shoulder or back issues and always started there.
 
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SCAR 17 is about the softest shooting .308 I’ve ever fired. If you can get over the 16 inch barrel That’d be a fine choice.
 
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I remember the Cobb ARs in .30/06, but I don't think they're around anymore.
 
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SCAR 17 is about the softest shooting .308 I’ve ever fired. If you can get over the 16 inch barrel That’d be a fine choice.


16in barrel wont give up much at typical hunting ranges.


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He's looking at taking any of the larger game that's available there. I mentioned the usual, Browning,CZ,Winchester in calibers ranging from 7mm to .338 but he mentioned he has a messed up rotator cuff and was wanting to know of an AR platform with a caliber that would do it all. I'm familiar with the AR10 style up to a .308. What other options are out there(.458 Socom might be too much).

Start with a good definition of "any of the larger game". Does that include grizzly and polar bears? Or moose, caribou, and black bears? Form follows function.

Assuming factory ammo, AR-10s can be purchased from 6mm/.243 bores up to .338 bores, in standard action length -- meaning a case roughly of the size and capacity of a .308. A few specialty shops make ARs which handle long cases and magnum calibers.

458 SOCOM is meant for an AR-15, and is likely about the biggest thumper of that class of cartridge. Muzzle energy on the round will likely max at 2400-ish foot pounds.

308 Win is meant for an AR-10. Expect max muzzle energies of about 2700 foot pounds.

338 Federal is another AR-10 chamber. Max muzzle energies of about 3100 foot pounds.

The lighter side of AR-10 chambers include 7mm-08, 260/6.5, and 244/6mm. Muzzle energies will be less than 308. In the middle of the pack will be the 260/6.5, with max energies of 2300-2400 foot pounds.

Recoil reduction can occur in the following ways:
- increase the weight of the rifle
- reduce the power of the load
- add some form of mechanical recoil absorption to the stock
- add some form of muzzle brake, which also includes silencers
- for a semi auto platform, DI may offer slightly less perceived recoil than a piston system of the same basic configuration, but many shooters will be unable to tell the difference
 
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I think his max game would be grizzly but would be in an ohoh moment. More than likely caribou, moose and black bear.
 
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338 federal. Federal power shok 200gr 2700 fps at muzzle. This little round packs a real punch. I own a Tika t3 in this caliber.
 
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