My brother is looking to put a scope on his HR.

He doesn't want a red dot.

He'll probably be using it as a range gun 50-100 yards. Plinking. I believe it is a flat top carbine.


I suggested he look at these models from UTG. Both were well-reviewed, and rated by 2 random reports I found online.

So turning to the Sig Forum brain trust


UTG 3-12 UTG 3-12X44 30mm Compact Scope, AO, 36-color Mil-dot, Rings

Or the

UTG Bug Buster

Any feedback on UTG scopes. I known the rings are Made in USA. He'd like to buy made in USA scope as well. I'm not sure there is a $200 or less USA scope worth buying for an AR or not.

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Why would you buy UTG garbage Chinesium? I would instead look at options from manufacturers that don’t sell Chinese crap.

Honestly, for his expected price point everything is going to be Chinesium. While dials / cooolie turrets / MilDot reticles are neat looking, for his intended use (100 yards), they are absolutely not needed.

For inexpensive but more quality optics, I recommend Burris MTAC 1-4x24 (I owned one before selling the rifle / optic to a friend in need of an AR) and other Burris offerings. Mostly made in the PI in their OEM factory, they have a number of budget offerings in the $200 range.

If he wants USA-ish made, I would say look at the Leupold "Freedom" lineup.

While UTG isn't my choice of anything, they must be doing something right because they sell a lot of stuff. They have a "LIFETIME WARRANTY - The Best Never Rest Warranty - Lifetime" on their website and those scopes have a lot of stars on Amazon, so for yearly plinking trips, they might not be completely awful scopes.

Thinking back, I owned an optic similar to the "UTG 3-12X44 30mm Compact Scope, AO, 36-color Mil-dot, Rings" and had it on my MP-15/22 for awhile before putting a Japanese Weaver on it. Scope seemed to work fine, I believe it was the Walmart version of the same.

Thanks, Rhinowso.

I'm really here looking for scope recommendations for him. Also for feedback on the UTG. You gave both.

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Originally posted by SOTAR:
Thanks, Rhinowso.

I'm really here looking for scope recommendations for him. Also for feedback on the UTG. You gave both.

I’ve never even seen a UTG scope but have bought some armor panels and discreet weapons cases and was impressed, especially for the money. I just bought a Leupold 1-4x 1” scope for $199 and 2 day shipping. I’d give it a look. https://www.basspro.com/shop/e...eedom-ar-rifle-scope

When I go inexpensive optic, I go Bushnell.
Been pretty good so far.

I found Nikon the be the best of the low cost optics out there. I know they are not producing scopes any longer. But lots out there. The prostaff is a lot of scope for the money. Buck masters too. I would give them a look. Really good glass.

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Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
For inexpensive but more quality optics, I recommend Burris MTAC 1-4x24 (I owned one before selling the rifle / optic to a friend in need of an AR) and other Burris offerings. Mostly made in the PI in their OEM factory, they have a number of budget offerings in the $200 range.

I second Burris, and second the MTAC. All my scopes are Burris and I've never had an iota of trouble from any of them. I've owned Burris since they were made in the USA, and never stopped buying them even after Burris built their own factory in the Philippines with manufacturing equipment from their US plant. They have fantastic glass and built as tough, or tougher, than any other brand out there. They are excellent scopes. Their Fullfield E1 line is excellent. And they can take recoil. I have my E1 on a .30-30, and my MTAC on a .45-70. It holds zero even after firing some thumping hot rounds.

I've got a Primary Arms optic that has held zero for years. I think it was sub $200.

thanks all