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Remington 870 Express Magnum (etc) or Mossberg 500 (etc), with the longer mag tube for 6 +1 (etc), 12 ga. No. 1 Buck, any need for a side saddle for home defense (you know, one or two miscreants causing miscreance), or just keep it slim and trim? Just looking for opinions on both sides, a fun discussion, not a definitive answer.



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Posts: 1414 | Location: Missouri | Registered: November 20, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I prefer having the extra ammo available. You never know what you're going to get into, and you're going to have to fight with what you have in/on yourself and your gun.

No matter what type of defensive firearm it is, I'm just not comfortable relying on something that only holds 5 to 7 rounds, with no ability to reload. For example, I also wouldn't just grab something like a J frame revolver and expect to rely on its 5 rounds as my sole defensive option.
 
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You never know what you're going to get into, and you're going to have to fight with what you have in/on yourself and your gun.

Similarly, I wouldn't just grab something like a 5 shot J frame and call it "good enough".


Sensible, Rogue, as always.



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Posts: 1414 | Location: Missouri | Registered: November 20, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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'no' vote for me

if you have a shotgun with an extended tube magazine hard to conceive that wouldn't be enough

a person can always imagine incredible scenarios but IMO those are extremely unlikely where ~7+1 won't be sufficient

but in the end you are the one who has to sleep with your decision

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Originally posted by Sig209:
'no' vote for me


I hear you, that is a great position. . . .



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Posts: 1414 | Location: Missouri | Registered: November 20, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I vote side saddle.
Good place for specialty rounds, like slugs.
Easy to "top up' the magazine if need be.
its about having options.


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An elastic butt cuff cost $10, adds 5 additional rounds, and doesn't screw up the lines or handling of the shotgun. I personally would MUCH rather have a butt cuff than a side saddle.

And since it only cost $10, and really has no down sides, then YES, at least put one of these on. You probably wont need the extra 5 rounds, but they sit there so peacefully without complaint, I dont see why you wouldn't at least put them on there


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Posts: 5573 | Location: Floriduh | Registered: October 16, 2004Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I'm a big fan of side saddles for shotguns.






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Definitely.

One of the (few, nowadays) benefits of shotguns is the ability to swap ammo from buck to slugs and to top off the magazine. You can't do either without extra ammo on board.

Both are skills taught in any shotgun class worth its salt.


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I hate em. Throws the balance off. Throws the handling off (being able to wrap your hand around the action) If I feel I need more rounds ON the gun, a stock cuff works. Not crazy about them, but it's a better option for me.

The only side saddle I can abide is the soft removable "card" style. That way it's only annoying some times. Smile


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A "no" here. A G17 is first, the Mossberg is for serious problems. If I've run through several mags of +p and an extended tube of 00, why is a large group of armed attackers at my house?

I agree it is cumbersome for HD.


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Elastic side saddle velcroed to the receiver. Pull it off when you don't want it. Slap it on when you do. Have one with slugs and another with buck. Then get 2 more Wink
They also fit nicely in AR mag pouches, for classes.

I like the weight they add to the gun. It soaks up some of the recoil.

Cheap and versatile.

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Originally posted by Bigboreshooter:
I'm a big fan of side saddles for shotguns.





Weirdly enough, I have side saddles on my "normal" shotguns where they don't screw up the balance and fit into my reload, top-off and ammo swap routines, but intentionally left one off my TAC14. It rides at work as a very specialized niche weapon, primarily for entry into such places as singlewides, and my sole and only immediate action with it, should it malf or go empty is a transition to a handgun.
 
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on my primary go to "home" shotgun, yes. my others, no. shown is my Remington 870 SBS, its a U.S.S.S. contract gun that I changed the stock on and using a Larue side saddle.

 
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A hard "Yes" here.

Ammo in a tough situation is a lot like money, you can never have enough!

My 870 has a side saddle and an old school Surefire light mount.


When it comes to home defense weapons, take a look at your house, the surroundings... If you're in a downtown condo, an M-240, a Maw-duce, an M-79 / -203 might be a little too much.

You have 40, 50, 500 sprawling acres, large open spaces, house, barn... That 5 shot .38 might be a little under kill.


Whatever your choice is, I recommend a light, extra ammo, and have your cellphone close to it.


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A definite YES.

One of the drawbacks to shotguns are their limited capacity. As was previously mentioned, one never knows what they'll run into and how little or how much ammo they might need. Better to have it and not need it than.. well, you know. Wink

While I too, have other weapons that will come into play before I consider going for my shotgun, ( Benelli M4 with 7 + 1 in the gun and 8 more on a Mesa Tactical shell carrier/receiver rail, ) if I needed to employ my shotgun, I'd feel alot better with the additional ammo readily at hand.




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Velcro ammo card on the receiver. Can easily be removed for storage in the safe..

My situation is such that one 223 round would exit my home and enter a neighbor...so I use #4buck and being able to add seven more to the five my Mossberg has is nice.if it runs out of ammo, there is also a full mag from the g19



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As a side note, if you're using one on an inertia driven gun, you want one with the elastic loops, not the rigid plastic ones.

I had a friend who'd put one on his match gun and was having malfunctions. He contacted the builder and they finally talked their way around to the fact that my friend had added a side saddle. The next question was is it soft or hard. He told him get rid of it, use a soft one if you must. He did and his malfunctions went away.


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I like the old elastic butt stock slip on loops.


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A qualified yes from me...

If you are going to put a side-saddle ammo carrier (mounted on the receiver), make sure you thoroughly function test it (cycle the action and test fire) to ensure the addition of the side saddle does not affect function/reliability. The mounting bolts, if not properly tightened, will cause malfunctions.


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