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Handled a CZ Scorpion ... may sell all my ARs now!

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September 30, 2020, 12:22 PM
Lumbergh
Handled a CZ Scorpion ... may sell all my ARs now!
Not to burst anyones bubble, but I've found the Scorpion to be meh.

Have mine SBRed and it just doesn't stack up that well to the MP5 platform.

Much prefer my MP5 clones to shoot.

Snappy recoil for a 9mm with that heavy BCG sliding back and forth in the light polymer receiver.

Even my 9mm AR feels like it has a less recoil impulse.

I recommend shooting before buying for sure!

(Would not sell my ARs for a Scorpion...)
September 30, 2020, 01:40 PM
oddball
quote:
Originally posted by Lumbergh:
Not to burst anyones bubble, but I've found the Scorpion to be meh.

Have mine SBRed and it just doesn't stack up that well to the MP5 platform.

Much prefer my MP5 clones to shoot.


I have an HK SP5, and yes, it is an excellent firearm, but it doesn't take away from my Scorpion, it is still very fun gun to shoot.



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September 30, 2020, 03:35 PM
MikeGLI
quote:
Originally posted by Lumbergh:
Not to burst anyones bubble, but I've found the Scorpion to be meh.

Have mine SBRed and it just doesn't stack up that well to the MP5 platform.

Much prefer my MP5 clones to shoot.

Snappy recoil for a 9mm with that heavy BCG sliding back and forth in the light polymer receiver.

Even my 9mm AR feels like it has a less recoil impulse.

I recommend shooting before buying for sure!

(Would not sell my ARs for a Scorpion...)


I don't think you'll find a ton of people claiming the Scorpion is a better gun than an MP5. I think it does a few things differently/better, but the allure, at least for me, was the price and aftermarket support. I think the Scorpion needs a lot of upgrading at first, but it's relatively cheap compared to an MP5 or even an MPX.

I think out of the box, the triggers on both the Scorpion and SP5 are shit. I don't know how much the fix is for the HK, but the Scorpion was a $8 fix. Mags are cheap and most accessories are cheap. It'll never scratch the itch of the MP5 for me, but it's filling a deliberate role for me and it didn't break the bank.

The recoil is stiff. Big Grin




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October 01, 2020, 12:11 AM
tomgun
Definately fun to shoot, fairly low cost, I like mine a lot!

October 02, 2020, 04:00 PM
kimberkid
quote:
Originally posted by Lumbergh:
Not to burst anyones bubble, but I've found the Scorpion to be meh.

Have mine SBRed and it just doesn't stack up that well to the MP5 platform.

Much prefer my MP5 clones to shoot.

Snappy recoil for a 9mm with that heavy BCG sliding back and forth in the light polymer receiver.

Even my 9mm AR feels like it has a less recoil impulse.

I recommend shooting before buying for sure!

(Would not sell my ARs for a Scorpion...)

I agree, but you can nearly buy 3 Scorpions for 1 MP5 clone

I was bored with my MP5 clone, until I got a registered sear, now we rock & roll ... beauty is in the eye of the beholder!

--- Next ---

Just wait until you put a binary trigger on that Scorpion ... Yehaa!


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October 02, 2020, 04:29 PM
1s1k
quote:
Originally posted by hrcjon:
I'm "into" these type of 9mm guns. The scorpion is a very nice mid point between price and aftermarket and capability etc. But there are a zillion other ones and many of them, to me, are far better than the CZ. But sometimes with prices that match. IN any case the point of this is maybe to go shoot a few of the other alternatives and see what you like/don't like. In the end I think an AR9 is the most basic first thing to have as its so completely fungible to what you want.
I agree. They are a ton of fun to shoot but this is a super competitive field with tons of great choices. I am super picky about triggers and I'm not a fan of the stock Scorpions. This can be fixed though.
October 02, 2020, 04:32 PM
1s1k
quote:
Originally posted by SigM4:
I’m a fan.

Do you have a stamp for that or how is it legal?
October 07, 2020, 07:12 PM
PrinceAliFabulousHe
quote:
Originally posted by Lumbergh:
Not to burst anyones bubble, but I've found the Scorpion to be meh.

Have mine SBRed and it just doesn't stack up that well to the MP5 platform.

Much prefer my MP5 clones to shoot.

Snappy recoil for a 9mm with that heavy BCG sliding back and forth in the light polymer receiver.

Even my 9mm AR feels like it has a less recoil impulse.

I recommend shooting before buying for sure!

(Would not sell my ARs for a Scorpion...)


I must be the exception to this rule. I shot my neighbors MP5SD and MP5K clones last weekend and I'd take a 9mm AR all day every day over either one.
October 07, 2020, 07:54 PM
AllenInAR
I'm a fan. Can't wait to get my Omega 9K.




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October 08, 2020, 07:37 PM
Rolan_Kraps
I have 2. A Carbine with faux suppressor and a pistol with brace. Love 'em both!

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October 08, 2020, 08:28 PM
djpaintles
quote:
Originally posted by AllenInWV:
I'm a fan. Can't wait to get my Omega 9K.



My Omega 9 sounds like a pellet rifle with subsonic ammo. Hitting the target is louder than the Scorpion's report with subsonic ammo. Order a trip-lug while you are waiting. It's the way to go for mounting.......


Remember, this is all supposed to be for fun...................
October 09, 2020, 09:02 PM
AllenInAR
Already have one. Can't recall the place I bought it, but that's a "flash can" on a 5.something" triple lugged barrel. Big Grin


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October 10, 2020, 01:08 PM
David W
quote:
Originally posted by AllenInWV:
I'm a fan. Can't wait to get my Omega 9K.



Is this a micro with a longer rail?


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October 10, 2020, 03:57 PM
AllenInAR
No, just swapped the barrel.


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October 11, 2020, 09:56 AM
David W
quote:
Originally posted by AllenInWV:
No, just swapped the barrel.


Which base model is this one? I can’t find one with the longer rail on CZ website.


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October 11, 2020, 10:17 AM
AllenInAR
EVO 3 S1 pistol. The handguard is aftermarket, HBI 6.8" flat. Original barrel is 7" if I recall. I wanted a can for it, and still keep it shortish. Got a 3-lug 5.3" "Micro-K" barrel from In Lead We Trust.


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October 11, 2020, 10:47 AM
David W
quote:
Originally posted by AllenInWV:
EVO 3 S1 pistol. The handguard is aftermarket, HBI 6.8" flat. Original barrel is 7" if I recall. I wanted a can for it, and still keep it shortish. Got a 3-lug 5.3" "Micro-K" barrel from In Lead We Trust.


Exactly what I wanted to know, thanks!


David W.

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October 16, 2020, 08:21 PM
MikeGLI
quote:
Originally posted by AllenInWV:
I'm a fan. Can't wait to get my Omega 9K.



Who makes that handstop?




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October 16, 2020, 08:53 PM
AllenInAR
LOL Magpul.



It's actually the back part of their hand stop kit. I think it looks better and it definitely keeps my hand from sliding forward.


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