wondering how much less an M1 would weigh , with a plastic set up.
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October 12, 2017, 03:39 PM
45 Cal
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with a plastic set up.
What in the hell is wrong with great walnut wood? I do not want any plastic shit or laminate on my treasures!
October 13, 2017, 12:16 PM
bendable
nothing is wrong with it, not a single thing.
the only one that I got to shoot had major wood, and I shot it very well, its a very fun shooter, indeed.
but compared to some other guns it seemed on the heavy side.
just wondering if the weight was mostly from the wood or an abundance of metal
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October 13, 2017, 12:48 PM
fritz
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Originally posted by bendable: the only one that I got to shoot had major wood
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October 13, 2017, 01:44 PM
captain127
The weight is mostly in the metal. To look at it another way hold a wood m14 stock then a plastic one at most perhaps a half pound difference
October 13, 2017, 01:59 PM
mrmn50
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Originally posted by 45 Cal:
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with a plastic set up.
What in the hell is wrong with great walnut wood? I do not want any plastic shit or laminate on my treasures!
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October 13, 2017, 10:15 PM
3/4Flap
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Originally posted by bendable: anyone ever weigh the wood only on an M1 ?
wondering how much less an M1 would weigh , with a plastic set up.
I'd be interested, too.
I'm betting it is in some tech specs, but I'm not sure where.
Interesting question.
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October 20, 2017, 03:23 PM
ArtieS
According the the Springfield Armory site, a synthetic stocked M1A Loaded model is 9.3 pounds, and a walnut stocked M1A Loaded model is 9.8; thus a .5 lb. difference. In both cases, the weight was given without magazine or ammo.
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October 20, 2017, 04:09 PM
RogueJSK
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Originally posted by ArtieS: According the the Springfield Armory site, a synthetic stocked M1A Loaded model is 9.3 pounds, and a walnut stocked M1A Loaded model is 9.8; thus a .5 lb. difference. In both cases, the weight was given without magazine or ammo.
That's a good approximation, but keep in mind that the M1 Garand has a bit more wood than the M14/M1A. So it follows that the difference between a wood and synthetic Garand stock would be greater than just half a pound.
The Garand has two wooden handguards and a wooden buttstock.
The M14/M1A only has a wooden buttstock. The handguard is synthetic. (Only the earliest M14s had wooden handguards.)
The buttstocks are also dimensionally different, so it's not even an apples:apples comparison between the just buttstocks alone.
October 20, 2017, 06:52 PM
ArtieS
Good point. I misread the OP and assumed he was referring to M1A/M14 platforms where such stocks are readily interchangeable.
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October 21, 2017, 08:39 AM
lyman
someone made plastic stocks for a M1, had a couple sets and sold them off a few years ago,
never weighed them, vs a wood set,
they were a bit fugly, compared to a nice wood stock
https://www.chesterfieldarmament.com/
October 21, 2017, 10:13 AM
P220 Smudge
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Originally posted by 45 Cal:
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with a plastic set up.
What in the hell is wrong with great walnut wood? I do not want any plastic shit or laminate on my treasures!
Said it for me.
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Originally posted by bendable: nothing is wrong with it, not a single thing.
the only one that I got to shoot had major wood, and I shot it very well, its a very fun shooter, indeed.
but compared to some other guns it seemed on the heavy side.
just wondering if the weight was mostly from the wood or an abundance of metal
Shooting one will give one a partial impression. Handle one with a 1907 leather sling fitted, a cleaning kit and grease pots stowed in the stock compartment, and a 10" bayonet fixed and you'll be holding 10# or better in a walnut and forged steel spear. For the kind of fighting it was designed for, and did, it had to be a weapon all on its own without ammo. It is. I wouldn't want to diminish that.
If you have never gotten to field strip one, or handle one broken down, that would answer most of your question. The barreled action is the significant portion of the weight. The weight in the stock simply provides balance, again, which I wouldn't want to mess with.
A quick google gave me this, which should help give a better impression of what's going on here. See how beefy the barrel is? WWII handguards weren't as thick as Korean era and later aftermarket stuff but even then, there's not a lot a material or weight there. Front handguards aren't all that heavy either. A stock by itself feels about twice as heavy with a leather sling fitted and the combo tool and cleaning kit in the stock compartments.
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