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Finally I received my entry tactical in after a long arduous wait. Being a picky ass though, I was kind of taken aback when I went to pick it up at my dealer. The rifle looks beautiful, but it is not as tight of an upper to lower fit as I would have expected from RRA. All the other RRA's I have held had NO play whatsoever, but this one has some. Not much, but some. I am debating on sending it back to have them look at it at RRA, but what can or will they even do?
 
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Sending it back because of play between the upper and lower seems _really_ overboard to me.

Get either an accuwedge or JP tension pin if it bothers you. It's not a quality control issue, it's an AR.

ARs have play between the upper and lower.


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Originally posted by arcwelder76:
Sending it back because of play between the upper and lower seems _really_ overboard to me.

Get either an accuwedge or JP tension pin if it bothers you. It's not a quality control issue, it's an AR.

ARs have play between the upper and lower.


Arc's right. Even the legendary Colt, Noveske, LMT, LWC and others have "play". It really has little to no bearing on the accuracy of the AR.

Sending it back would likely accomplish little.
YMMV
 
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I know this is going to sound jerkish, but if you were really a "picky ass" you should have bought a Colt. Not that there would be less play in the upper and lower (play, gaps and rattle, that is normal for ARs), but you would have had the best. RRA is a upper mid-level AR builder.

Your best bet is to follow Arc's suggestion.
 
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No, it's pretty understandable. The recent surge in demand has caught everyone in one way or another, but the RRAs I've bought before the surge were tighter than South Texas ticks at a roundup. I don't think the OP will get much help at RRA because of the surge, but I can see being surprised that an RRA wasn't tight.
 
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Originally posted by arcwelder76:
Sending it back because of play between the upper and lower seems _really_ overboard to me.

Get either an accuwedge or JP tension pin if it bothers you. It's not a quality control issue, it's an AR.

ARs have play between the upper and

lower.




I know that most ARs have play, but I thought RRA did not which was one thing that set them apart. I am all about functionality but I am equally concerned with fit and finish.
 
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It really puzzles me why anyone puts so much concern into the play between the upper and lower. It's the least important thing in an AR when looking at the quality of the build, and the "fit and finish."

I've owned a whole mess of ARs over the years, and I too appreciate "fit and finish." That's why I settled on Knights Armament.

If you buy 10 ARs from any one company, they will all have slightly different amounts of play between the upper and lower. It's not important.

If the only reason you bought an RRA was because you thought they always had a tight fit between the upper and lower, really that's not a great guideline. And it's just not so.

Like I said, get an accuwedge or JP tension pin, and go shoot your AR.


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+1 on the tension-pin. Smile


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What is a tension pin?
 
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What is a tension pin?


http://www.jprifles.com/instructions/Rifle/JPTP.pdf



Also:

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Interesting. Both my brother and I have RRA Entry Tactical models. There is VERY little play between my upper and lower, same in his rifle.

That said, it's an AR. A little play is perfectly normal. Get an accuwedge if it bothers you and it will tighten it up.


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Interesting. Both my brother and I have RRA Entry Tactical models. There is VERY little play between my upper and lower, same in his rifle.

That said, it's an AR. A little play is perfectly normal. Get an accuwedge if it bothers you and it will tighten it up.




Kevin


Maybe mine is not so much out of the ordinary after all. How does an accuwedge work?
 
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I wish my RRA had more receiver had more play in it. The pins can be a pain to push out compared to my Colt.
 
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LSE, you are good to go. No worries. That should not affect the operation of that rifle in the least bit. shoot it, enjoy it. accesorize it. on and on and on. Wink




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Kevin[/QUOTE]

Maybe mine is not so much out of the ordinary after all. How does an accuwedge work?[/QUOTE]

The accuwedge is simply an angled chunk of rubber which is formed into a shape which fits into the rear corner of the lower, when you pivot the upper down to engage the rear pin the wedge gives a little resistance between the lower and the square boss pin block of the upper. You just push down a little on the upper and push the pin thru and the wedge compresses and takes up the rattle between them. Pretty simple. I,ve never seen any accuracy improvement, but I'm happy without the rattle!
 
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Well I sent it back after all and RRA had it back to me within 3 days with a brand new lower fit perfectly to the upper. Yes, maybe it was extreme, but I am happy now that I finally have my AR-15 just the way I wanted it, and I now know the excellence of RRA's customer service, which makes me glad I bought from them.
 
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