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I finally got my Safariland ELS belt set up and it’s a solid meh. Maybe actual use, rather than dry fire, will improve my opinion. The larger QLS plates don’t fit neatly, can be done and work though. The ELS to me is too small for a holster mount but good for the mag pouches. The belt is stiff enough and hooks well to the inner belt. It’s sort of difficult to get the studs in, but I think it will wear in. It will need a ratchet though I think, or at lease a few poly belt keepers.

I bought a Red Hill Tactical holster as they are one of the few making full body holsters for the TSO. I’m getting a spot of colored Kydex on the corner of the slide that I’m not super thrilled about. I may see if they can adjust it some. There is some play even when secure from falling out. Just enough to rattle but the gun won’t fall out. At this point, I prefer the fit of the CompTac that I use for the Shadow 2. The RHT does provide a nice draw still. It mounts well to the QLS, that’s how I ordered it. For my preference I’ll need to add a thigh pad to tilt the muzzle just a little more away from my leg, no fault of the holster or belt.

The RHT mag pouches are just ok, but seem just a step above amateur. Lots of material below the pouch that needs more rounding but then may not hold as well. The single tension screw works well and they fit snug to the magazines. They are fairly deep pouches and I’ve had some hang ups drawing from them, again, time my improve things. I’ll stay with Ghost from now on.

If anyone has any holster suggestions, I’d be glad to hear them. I think I’m going to go to a CR High Torque belt and put holes in it for the ELS/QLS stuff. This seems common and to work well.

First match today with the gear today. The holster works well and I think a little more sanding inside it will be just right.

The belt was good and held tight but I’m still going to get a ratchet for extra fine tuning.

The mag pouches however just won’t work for me. So back to Ghost or maybe Safariland.





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The RHT mag pouches are just ok, but seem just a step above amateur. Lots of material below the pouch that needs more rounding but then may not hold as well. The single tension screw works well and they fit snug to the magazines. They are fairly deep pouches and I’ve had some hang ups drawing from them, again, time my improve things. I’ll stay with Ghost from now on.
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The mag pouches however just won’t work for me. So back to Ghost or maybe Safariland.

I really like the Safailand 771 pouches. The open front makes drawing much slicker. I ordered mine with the belt loop, and later bought the clip attachment system for a Safariland belt. I use the belt loops for IDPA.



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I’m trying to figure out what Group size fits the TSO mags for sure but they also look tempting since I’ve got the ELS mounts already.




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I have to admit that my last order from Red Hill was just meh. The holster wasn't cut right for the P229 I was teaching with and each time I drew the pistol, it rubbed the middle finger on my gun hand.

Upon inspection, the back of the holster wasn't trimmed properly.

I'm currently looking at other holsters on the internet.


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I’m seeing some other issues online. Maybe they are getting too big too fast. I’m in touch with Steadfast holsters but his books are closed until after the first of the year.

Ultimately I think something that uses the BOSS hanger or similar is the way to go. Steadfast offers this option. It helps keep the muzzle straight or slightly out so it’s not pointing at your leg.

For a regular belt mount holster, I really like the Side Armour.




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RHT and Kydex in general has always been absolutely brutal on the finish of the gun. I've had a couple RHT that have been overly tight. I still prefer the stiffness of their double layer to what their competitors are offering. If tightness is of concern, I'd look at getting a DAA race holster for limited. Not sure if Safariland makes an 014 that works with a TSO, but it is probably a better option for the ELS setup if that is what you are looking for.

I use the ghost pouches for everything outside of single stack. If I had to replace them, I would probably go with the DAA racers as they are very nice on my single stack rig.


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I try, but still don’t shoot enough to do much wear to the finish. The dragging and removal of Kydex that then gets stuck on the gun is annoying. Tight at one point and loose at others.




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I'm very happy with the BladeTech Black Ice for my X5 Allround. I did replace BT's rather flexible DOH attachment with a BOSS hangar. It made a noticeable difference for a ~45oz gun. I don't know if they make the Black Ice anymore, but they do offer their Classic OWB holster for the CZ Tactical Sport. Not sure if that fit is different from the TSO.


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The Blade Tech TS holster won’t work for the TSO, different dust covers.




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