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Got an e-mail from my Training Counselor that the rumors of upcoming changes to BP are true. Evidently, the NRA has come to the belated conclusion that blended learning is a complete failure. Too bad they didn't listen to us when we tried to tell them this when it was first introduced. No details of the changes are forthcoming yet but at least we know they may be hope.





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Since they've already paid to create it, they should find a sponsor that will pay for the cost of hosting and maintaining it. And then offer it for free, at least the basic level classes for each weapon type.

It isn't the best training, but it is better than some of the idiots you see on Youtube.


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What is blended learning?




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What is blended learning?


The idea is you do part of the class online and part of the class with an instructor.

At a University that might mean you spend 1 hours in class, and 2 hours online for a 3 credit hour class.

With this, it meant the book portion was online, and you saw an instructor for the shooting portion of the class.


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I hated teaching the class after blended learning started. Under the old format, I was able to get to know the students and their needs before going to the range. That was always important with the new shooters.





"You know, Scotland has its own martial arts. Yeah, it's called Fuck You. It's mostly just head butting and then kicking people when they're on the ground." - Charlie MacKenzie (Mike Myers in "So I Married an Axe Murderer")
 
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Originally posted by Green Highlander:
I hated teaching the class after blended learning started. Under the old format, I was able to get to know the students and their needs before going to the range. That was always important with the new shooters.


You still could've had a short meeting with the student to get that information before heading out to the range.

In fact IMO you really should be doing that before every class with a student, even an existing one.


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the NRA has come to the belated conclusion that blended learning is a complete failure



My club ran one of the first
(and maybe only) blended learning courses in southern NH about a month back.

There were serious issues with getting them enrolled in phase two even after they got their PIN. The Chief Instructor had to manually print out a certificate of completion for those students.

That's one area the NRA needs to work on. But this type of training seems to be the wave of the future. PADI went to it many years ago in the form of a DVD. Not really a fan of it although I'm sure it saves the NRA a ton of money printing and storing materials.

I'd bet the move to the blended method is on hold for Personal Protection in and out of the home now.

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You still could've had a short meeting with the student to get that information before heading out to the range.


Ten students, 15 minutes each adds hours on the to day. Having them there for what we normally ran in a 12 to 16 hour class gave us a great indication of their ability.

In fact one lesion found was that even in a "blended" setting, we needed much more than the eight hours they claim is needed.


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I spent 2-3 hours reviewing material covered in the online portion to make sure they got it. If I was responsible for signing their certificate, I was damn sure they understood the material. The need for this became apparent the first time I ran i and one of the students had obviously had someone else do the online test. He had no clue.

What club in NH are you referring to?





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Ten students, 15 minutes each adds hours on the to day. Having them there for what we normally ran in a 12 to 16 hour class gave us a great indication of their ability.


You don't need to spend 15 minutes, a quick hands survey is probably what works best for a class like setting. Because most of the people taking a NRA Basic XXX class don't know how much they don't know.

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In fact one lesion found was that even in a "blended" setting, we needed much more than the eight hours they claim is needed.


Those numbers are always optimistic.


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