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Good video. I was taught that early on when reholstering.
Didn't know about firing off a round while your thumb was on the back of the slide though. Good information.


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I'd have not believed that unless he did a demonstration in the video!

Several years back, a younger, dumber (if that's possible) version of my took my wife to learn to shoot, and one of the guns I had her shoot was my 1911. She shot one off with her thumb partially out of position, and I thought she'd broken it there for a while. I felt terrible, and she STILL doesn't trust me to teach her anything about a gun. Frown


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I was taught that early on in life.
 
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Well, I learned something today. Never knew that bit about the gun being unable to cycle if you keep constant pressure. Thank you sir!


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Early on in my LE career I attended a "Shooting for Survival" class hosted by a large SO department.

First drill I shot with my 4006 DA/SA I decocked covered the hammer and went back to the holster. The instructor stopped the class pulled me forward of the line and had the students circle around me and told me to redo the drill. After the drill he proceeded to tell the entire class to never place your thumb on the back of the slide cause you'll lose your thumb. He looked me in the eye and said, "man you're asking for a bloody mess" and then put everyone back on the line.

Thats the only thing I remember from that class, it was a long 2 days. Thats when Surefire was desperate for instructors I guess.


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With a hammered gun, you would still have that result, right? The hammer is going to push your thumb back enough to allow the barrel to unlock, I would expect.

I do it though. My belief is I would feel the hammer pulling back before it fell on the firing pin. I'll take my chances.


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With a hammered gun, you would still have that result, right? The hammer is going to push your thumb back enough to allow the barrel to unlock, I would expect.

I do it though. My belief is I would feel the hammer pulling back before it fell on the firing pin. I'll take my chances.


I think we are on the same page... hammer down. The gun is decocked on a SA/DA gun thumb over the hammer. On a S/A gun such as a 1911, I have the thumb place positive pressure up on the thumb safety and trigger finger along the frame (safety spot). Hope that makes sense.


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Well, I learned something today. Never knew that bit about the gun being unable to cycle if you keep constant pressure. Thank you sir!

I suspect if the thumb is blocking the slide, but back a little further, it may develope a little bit of speed. That might smart a tad.




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Well, I learned something today. Never knew that bit about the gun being unable to cycle if you keep constant pressure. Thank you sir!

I suspect if the thumb is blocking the slide, but back a little further, it may develope a little bit of speed. That might smart a tad.


That is covered in the video.


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With a hammered gun, you would still have that result, right? The hammer is going to push your thumb back enough to allow the barrel to unlock, I would expect.

I do it though. My belief is I would feel the hammer pulling back before it fell on the firing pin. I'll take my chances.


On a hammered pistol you should feel the hammer moving when you are holstering and stop what you are doing before the pistol goes off.


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On a hammered pistol you should feel the hammer moving when you are holstering and stop what you are doing before the pistol goes off.

With a beavertail, you can put your thumb between the hammer and the tail. Then you couldn't pull the trigger if you tried. If you tried really hard, you would break the trigger and the gun still wouldn't fire.

Hammer-Thumb-Beavertail - The ultimate safe holstering system.




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