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E tan e epi tas
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So I have tritium on most of my serious social firearms as well as a light source.

That being said I just realized how much light we have at all times in our house. Not sure why I randomly thought of this but our house always has plenty of light unless it is a bedroom at night.

I am not suddenly discounting nights or a light source just coming to the realization that in my house barring a power outage I have plenty of light 24/7.

No idea why this popped into my head.


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Posts: 7681 | Location: On the water | Registered: July 25, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Many of us have the...opportunities...to use our night sights in uncontrolled environments during +/-12 hours of darkness all winter.

I'll keep mine Wink




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Occasionally during the late evening or early morning hours I'll encounter a group of wild hogs. They are nothing like the threats like Chongo faces, but I still like having night sights there in case they are needed.


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Night sights aren't only useful in total darkness. They are still visible in lower levels of light, for example, an unlit or dimly lit room, on a lighted street at night, at dawn or dusk. All we are looking for is for the sights to stand out from the background, like DRLs on your car. I want them on all my guns. Take every advantage you can get.
 
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I believe they are the one "must have" on any carry gun. My big complaint with Sig and Glock:
Night sights are not standard on all their pistols.


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I've noticed that a blacked out rear and fiber optic front sight are just as visible as tritiums when using any light (which I do) and they are way better when it's light out.
 
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I have both night sights and weaponlights on all my handguns for serious use.

But if I had to have one or the other, I'd take the light. I think it's the more important/useful of the two.

Standard sights are still usable in the dark when used in conjunction with a light. And the glow of night sights tends to get washed/blacked out when used with a bright light, especially indoors, which renders a sight picture just like standard sights anyway.

In addition, it doesn't do you much good to see your sights if you can't see or fully identify your target.

However, there are certain scenarios where it is helpful to have both.
 
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Better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.
 
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I wasn’t saying I’d ditch them. I was just making the observation that my home is well lit 24/7 and it kind of surprised me. Kind of a forest for the trees moment if you will. Smile


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I think the weapon light (or handheld) is more important. Also, they can be useful in varied lighting conditions where perhaps you can see the target but not the sights against their dark clothing.




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I'll keep mine Wink


Me too.

Too many possible/probable scenarios to list to where night sights are a must. Up to and including seeing them on the night stand when you wake up.

I am pleased, however, that the "night sights will give your position away to Charlie" crowd has lost some steam.




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Any fancy sights (night sights, RDS, laser) are useless unless you can positively identify your target. If you had to choose between tritium sights or a good handheld/WML, the light should be first priority.

Generally, you won’t see a strong tritium glow under low light conditions where you still have enough light to make a positive identification. When it is dark enough to see a bright tritium glow, it’s usually too dark to be able to clearly identify who or what you’re lining up sights on. That being said, there are transitional lighting situations where tritium can be useful but they’re probably not as common as people think. If you can identify the target, you can usually still see sight outlines and obtain a reasonable sight picture.

Try it in your house - take the slide off and at different times of day/lighting conditions/locations, see for yourself what kind of situations exist where you can still make out a good sight picture AND still identify your target.
 
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I bought my own night sights 2k years ago it is a good thing. I have interviewed two officers who were involved in shootings that occured in poor or no light conditions. Both officers stated the glowing front sight was important for knowing where the shots would be placed. To rely on a place, condition or weather to favor you in any dynamic event is call hope and we all know what hope means... VI
 
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But if I had to have one or the other, I'd take the light. I think it's the more important/useful of the two.

Standard sights are still usable in the dark when used in conjunction with a light. And the glow of night sights tends to get washed/blacked out when used with a bright light, especially indoors, which renders a sight picture just like standard sights anyway.

In addition, it doesn't do you much good to see your sights if you can't see or fully identify your target.

However, there are certain scenarios where it is helpful to have both.


This. Especially the "see or fully identify your target" part.


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This. Especially the "see or fully identify your target" part.


You know, I really guess that my view of things are so much different. Cause I can think of more uses for night sights than lights.

A bump in the night downstairs at my house lends most people to view themselves in that situation to be a member of DevGru looking for the Tango bad guy. Me? I'm going to hide in a dark position and shoot him when he comes into the light. Thus, the night sights are far more valuable on a pistol. The only way a light is more valuable is if I am actively hunting someone at work. Aside from that, the night sights never have batteries that go dead, LEDs that eventually blow, and are always there for me.

But, its not an all or none conversation. Night Sights are equally as valuable.




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And I find it hard to believe that someone who can afford a $300 (new S&W Shield, used G32) to $500 (new S&W MP / Glocks) pistol couldn't possibly afford $50 for a Surefire G2X AND $70-80 for some sort of night sights. They would just die of hunger if they tried. Wink

So I see the "If you could only have one" as another forum instance of a dog chasing it's tail.
 
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Are there seriously folks who thought night sights would give away “your position”????? REALLY????


So if I put night sights on my Garand the combination of the sights and the PING would be a veritable death wish. Razz
Sigh.


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Originally posted by chongosuerte:
I'll keep mine Wink


Me too.

Too many possible/probable scenarios to list to where night sights are a must. Up to and including seeing them on the night stand when you wake up.

I am pleased, however, that the "night sights will give your position away to Charlie" crowd has lost some steam.


They are still around, just quiet.

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The problem I have with night sights is that, under normal lighted conditions and with my old eyes, regular contrast sights are MUCH easier to see than night sights.


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I've always considered them to be something to be used in tandem with a light not one or the other. Definitely something I will not skip on anything close to a serious pistol. There are definitely times I'd want night sights and no light but the light has become a must as well.

Especially during this season I find theres a ton more ambient light around 24/7. Maybe my neighbors and I all have Clark Griswold houses.
 
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