Having shot the X Series, particularly the XE guns, heavily in competition, I can tell you they are not without their issues. Fatal issues in some cases. The X Series has all of the attributes to shine in NRA Action Pistol, and as that is a discipline in which I find myself heavily focused currently, and being a SIG sponsored shooter, you'd think I'd continue to use this line if they held up. But they haven't in many cases. My AR-E had to be rebuilt after a single season (saying "after" is actually quite generous) and bigger names in the shooting world and on this forum have similar findings. That's not to say they have all suffered this fate; Tracie Rushing, also on the team, continues to hit 200 yard steel with her X5, but I've been advised by Team SIG coach and manager (his name rhymes with Ruce Bray) to not bother trying to make that piece of fine German craftsmanship hold together.
So what's the point here? Only that the mystique of Old World engineering isn't holding up when it comes to this line. The competitive team SIG has put together, the phenomenal volume of fire we've sent down range, the fact that SIG is putting their most talented engineer in the US analog of the Mastershop and finally the fact that Bruce Gray has SIG's ear firmly in hand all leads me to believe the American production of the X Series holds far greater promise than that already in our hands. If it falls short it'll be a shame, but another run at it is better than where we are.
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Here's hoping that at least one path to a redesign includes making a much simpler version of the X5. And maybe, just maybe, the 5" 226 that I'm really after.
LDD, steering away from hardware news for a moment, last year's coverage included the mention of additional SIG Academy training sites. Any updates on this ambitious but welcomed idea?
It wasn't mentioned. I think the plans are still there, but the Academy is kind of addressed in the interview (transcript forthcoming).
My unsupported speculation (derived from what's said in the interview) is that those plans have been back-burner-ed by the need to shepherd the other business units that came out last year.
That would tempt me, although I would prefer 6".
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Thanks for the insight on the X series Dan. That was very helpful. I'll withhold judgment until I have an American X series to go with my German ones.
I suspected as much. Sometimes what isn't said is as important as what is said.
Another outstanding year of coverage, sir!
Ohhhh, yes! Something along the lines of a P226 Norway or a P226 LDC would really be a tempting buy!
LDD, holy cow! Great job. Any mention of a single stack 320?
Philosophically, it's addressed in the interview, but SIG is trying to get better about not talking about things that are not ready for release. I am certain it's being talked about, if nothing more than conceptually. But in whatever form it exists, whether as prototype, napkin sketch, or theory, we won't see it in the next six months.
That's all great detailed information and definitely a lot of stuff that has not been reported anywhere else, or is contrary to what has been reported. (P210 Legion, X5's possibly this year) etc. Much appreciated!
It is interesting that there will be no more X5's made in Germany anymore (unless I'm reading that wrong) so guys that have been importing them better do it fast. However, in reality, the X5's while great range guns were never even close to popular/ideal in most competitions and for good reasons. Don't get me wrong I love my X5's but they would not even make the long list with today's available options for any competition I shoot.
I'd question that the P210 lockup is as accurate as the Browning unless SIG plans to include the same 1.5" 50m test targets as proof. Personally I don't care if they only shoot 1.5" at 25m, that's still better than I can shoot, but I believe that decision was more about cost than accuracy.
MPX info is interesting, seems that platform is still evolving (new valve or valve/barrel assembly coming), still no approved/reliable aftermarket trigger options. The magazine change is interesting, I wonder what the downside to the V lips were that drove the change. Given the choice of having the round guided smoothly all the way into the chamber versus popping up and "floating" in it would seem the former would yield more reliable feeding. They need to address the sight issue so people can get standard co-witness options with optics and standard height mounts. They should have simply made a standard height front tower with more elevation adjustment, but that would be more expensive than just shortening the towers. With all the new aftermarket parts for the CZ Scorpion coming, it appears to be a more reliable/appealing platform with less blowback, magazines costing 1/3 of the MPX, better reported QC and reliability, and a ~$700 lower price tag. Aside aesthetics and ergo's the CZ beats it everywhere else, if the LWRC SMG ever gets out of vaporware they could both be in trouble.
The MDR info is great, I was really interested in the platform but will wait awhile to see how it does, there's just too many early customers being used as Beta testers these days. I like the idea of a .308 bullpup, but only if it's rock solid and reliable, especially since the price is closing in on SCAR levels. As you said I see no point for a 6.5 on that platform, unless the plan is to offer a DMR package with a match trigger and longer precision barrel. The CH issue is probably less of an issue if not using an Eotech. An Aimpoint etc. with a riser would likely cause no problems. Even the Acog's are significantly more narrow than the eotech at the rail/mount, especially if one of the low profile non-QR mounts are used.
Could you expand on the "incompatibilities" a bit please. I can see the grip module would need a cut-out for the safety. I must be missing something ... which may well be!
Another big "thank you" for your reports!
With the P210 and the X5 and X6 ceasing to be produced in Germany, this will be the End of SIG Sauer in Eckernförde. SIG Sauer finally has become a US Company. Not something i am exited about.
Any word when the 1911 Nightmare Carry in .357 Sig will be released?
Always carry. Never tell.
Another amazing write up. Thanks.
Please tell me there is a 229 SAO coming out!
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