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Bought another P365...a hater's perspective

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November 05, 2018, 01:04 PM
esdunbar
Bought another P365...a hater's perspective
So, with the 365 talk still going on, I decided to buy another P365. I sold my last one quite a while ago and haven't touched one since.

Upon picking up the gun again, I am reminded of how amazingly small the gun is. I still can't believe it has the capacity it does when I hold it.

I still have my 12 round mags and holsters I bought from my first one, so I'm ready to hit the range later this week.

I really think the primer drag on this gun is a problem and design flaw, so I won't be carrying this gun. I'll keep carrying my G43.

However, I wanted to give the gun another try now that Sig says they've worked out the bugs. This new gun has a born on date of October 19, 2018.

I still like the x-ray sights. I once said they are the best factory sights and I maintain that today.

the 10 round mags still have a hot spot that causes a spot on the palm of my hand, but I'll sand down the corners on the mags as I did with my first one and it will be fine.

I'll keep y'all posted on how this sample does. I'm still pissed at Sig for making design changes to the gun and not offering original buyers a chance to get their guns fixed, so I'm still hoping Glock or S&W releases their own version at SHOT this in January.

So, we'll see if this gun makes me happy or if I'll remain a hater.
November 05, 2018, 01:06 PM
HRK
I call dibs when you put it up for sale Razz

Seriously, hope it works out for you this time.



November 05, 2018, 01:36 PM
az4783054
I hope if this one doesn't satisfy you that you won't blame me. Big Grin Recognize that it does have a specific purpose and don't expect more than that. I carry a 1911. When I'm going to the doctor's office or somewhere I want to be more discreet, I'll carry my P365. A side benefit is I weigh less. Razz

Your car will start hundreds of times and get you to your destination. You probably won't get rid of it the first time the battery dies.

There's people who like to say it may be 'life or death'. Probably the same odds as getting run over in a crosswalk. The odds are still much in your favor the P365 will perform as intended.

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November 05, 2018, 01:56 PM
esdunbar
lol az, it's not your "fault" man Big Grin

I'm just genuinely curious if I can get behind the gun. I'm going to shoot it a bunch and see how it does.

I really do want to love it. I just don't like the Sig conducts business at all.
November 05, 2018, 06:45 PM
sigbonjorno
Hope it works out. I have one born in Oct also with striker drag, but flawless non the least. I need a 12rd magazine now!
November 05, 2018, 07:45 PM
Amurr
Here’s to an open mind and honest review sir!!!
November 05, 2018, 07:57 PM
BBMW
Es,

You have your EDC X9 to carry. You don't need the Sig Smile
November 05, 2018, 08:33 PM
P220 Smudge
quote:
Originally posted by az4783054:
Your car will start hundreds of times and get you to your destination. You probably won't get rid of it the first time the battery dies.


Interesting analogy, but I’m not sure it’s entirely analagous in the way you’re trying to frame it. Batteries and gas get expended. They’re not designed by the car manufacturer. A car battery could be analagous to ammunition, which, yeah there’s apparently specially designed ammo for the 365.

Beyond all that, the whole analogy falls apart. It’s a carry gun. It needs to go bang when the trigger is pulled. That’s really about it. I’m not combat driving in Somalia so I don’t necessarily care if my car doesn’t kick over on the first key turn. Any firearm I carry to defend myself is held to an entirely different standard, and rightfully so.


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November 06, 2018, 08:40 AM
esdunbar
quote:
Originally posted by BBMW:
Es,

You have your EDC X9 to carry. You don't need the Sig Smile


lol, I've got the EDC X9 as we speak. I really wish they'd make it in like a 12 round capacity with a slightly shorter barrel.

I carry appendix and would love such an animal.

I left my ID and CCW at the gun store yesterday when I bought it, so I have to go there today to get them back.

I've got a 600 hundred rounds of ammo and the P365 in the range bag with a couple other new guns I haven't shot yet.

Not sure how many will be put through the 365, but I'll report back. I also have my G43 with me for a side by side comparison shooting.
November 06, 2018, 10:40 AM
BBMW
It's Wilson. Ask, and they'll do it for you custom (for enough money.)

quote:
Originally posted by esdunbar:
quote:
Originally posted by BBMW:
Es,

You have your EDC X9 to carry. You don't need the Sig Smile


lol, I've got the EDC X9 as we speak. I really wish they'd make it in like a 12 round capacity with a slightly shorter barrel.

I carry appendix and would love such an animal.

I left my ID and CCW at the gun store yesterday when I bought it, so I have to go there today to get them back.

I've got a 600 hundred rounds of ammo and the P365 in the range bag with a couple other new guns I haven't shot yet.

Not sure how many will be put through the 365, but I'll report back. I also have my G43 with me for a side by side comparison shooting.

November 06, 2018, 03:03 PM
Nframe
I'm looking for your review! I still haven't brought myself to buy one. My 19 or M&P 9c 3.6" is still my favorite ...
November 06, 2018, 03:07 PM
fpuhan
I'm still waiting for my FFL to get one in stock at a price I consider reasonable (don't ask, that's his take). So, I keep reading. I've held one, and yes, it's a remarkably small pistol.




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November 06, 2018, 03:51 PM
sns3guppy
quote:
Originally posted by az4783054:

Your car will start hundreds of times and get you to your destination. You probably won't get rid of it the first time the battery dies.


My battery is charged continually in operation by my alternator. Both are testable for condition and both can be replaced preemptively with advance warning based on state of charge, capacity, wear, and other factors. Neither my battery nor alternator pose a threat of failure in a gunfight.

I don't let my battery get to the point of failure. I check it, service it, load test it, and replace it pre-emptively based on the conditions of analysis, which includes elecrolytic analysis and specific gravity.

Which of those tests, or any other, might one conduct as part of routine, ongoing maintenance on the P365? I can test and maintain my battery to prevent it dying and leaving me stranded. What can I do to ensure that the striker on the P365, or trigger spring, will not fail, particularly at the most critical time?

I entirely reject the notion that it's not important because the "odds are small" that it will fail at a critical time, or that it will will never be needed.

If indeed that's true, then there is no reason to carry in the first place. Think.
November 06, 2018, 03:52 PM
JAFO
I was getting a sore trigger finger after extended range sessions, so mine is sitting in the safe waiting for GGI to release their flat trigger. After that, I'll get back to putting more rounds through it. It's been fine for ~450 rds since it was sent back for an extraction issue.

I kinda want to get my hands on a Foxtrot light, too.


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November 06, 2018, 04:28 PM
az4783054
quote:
Originally posted by sns3guppy:
quote:
Originally posted by az4783054:

Your car will start hundreds of times and get you to your destination. You probably won't get rid of it the first time the battery dies.


My battery is charged continually in operation by my alternator. Both are testable for condition and both can be replaced preemptively with advance warning based on state of charge, capacity, wear, and other factors. Neither my battery nor alternator pose a threat of failure in a gunfight.

I don't let my battery get to the point of failure. I check it, service it, load test it, and replace it pre-emptively based on the conditions of analysis, which includes elecrolytic analysis and specific gravity.

Which of those tests, or any other, might one conduct as part of routine, ongoing maintenance on the P365? I can test and maintain my battery to prevent it dying and leaving me stranded. What can I do to ensure that the striker on the P365, or trigger spring, will not fail, particularly at the most critical time?

I entirely reject the notion that it's not important because the "odds are small" that it will fail at a critical time, or that it will will never be needed.

If indeed that's true, then there is no reason to carry in the first place. Think.


I gave it some thought. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion. You certainly like to express yours a lot, all of which I chose to ignore. Razz


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November 07, 2018, 11:22 AM
92fstech
quote:
Originally posted by JAFO:
I was getting a sore trigger finger after extended range sessions, so mine is sitting in the safe waiting for GGI to release their flat trigger. After that, I'll get back to putting more rounds through it. It's been fine for ~450 rds since it was sent back for an extraction issue.

I kinda want to get my hands on a Foxtrot light, too.


I had this same problem...the gun was pinching my trigger finger something fierce. The grip is too small for my hands, and I was unable to get a solid grip purchase on it. Somebody on here suggested a Hogue Handall Jr grip sleeve. I didn't really want to do that as I like the factory grip texture on the P365 a lot, but for $7, I figured I could afford to give it a shot. The sleeve gave the gun just enough girth that I can now achieve a firm grip, and the pinching has been completely eliminated.

I'm amazed how accurate this little gun is (now that I'm not flinching every shot!), and the X-ray sights really help with fast target acquisition.
November 07, 2018, 11:29 AM
MNSIG
quote:
Originally posted by sns3guppy:
I entirely reject the notion that it's not important because the "odds are small" that it will fail at a critical time, or that it will will never be needed.

If indeed that's true, then there is no reason to carry in the first place. Think.


I have thought about it extensively and still disagree. The risk of getting into a gunfight and the risk of your striker breaking are both small and independent of each other. The risk of the striker breaking during a gunfight must be multiplied by the risk of being in one in the first place to matter.

Pick whatever numbers you want, but the risk of those two things in combination is ridiculously small.
November 07, 2018, 02:42 PM
Johnny 3eagles
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November 07, 2018, 04:05 PM
JAFO
quote:
Originally posted by 92fstech:
I had this same problem...the gun was pinching my trigger finger something fierce. The grip is too small for my hands, and I was unable to get a solid grip purchase on it. Somebody on here suggested a Hogue Handall Jr grip sleeve. I didn't really want to do that as I like the factory grip texture on the P365 a lot, but for $7, I figured I could afford to give it a shot. The sleeve gave the gun just enough girth that I can now achieve a firm grip, and the pinching has been completely eliminated.


I'm actually not having a pinching issue. It's more that the lower curve of the trigger rubs against the underside of my trigger finger during recoil. I only really notice it when I'm trying to run through like 300 rounds in a session, which I was doing testing the extraction problem and again after I got it back.


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November 07, 2018, 05:19 PM
Climb14er
Talking about P365's and batteries...

I'm still waiting for... FLAWLESS P365 reviews with no issues reported... from... every buyer! This will be an EDC pistol and quite frankly, I'm not looking for any problems at all!

Just replaced my 84 Month Toyota TruStart 27F battery in my V8 4Runner after five years.

Local Toyota folks sold me a new 84 Month battery for what I paid five years ago. Good deal! 45% off everyday price.