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Found this on another forum

Thought this would be of interest. Taken from Safly & Sons Sporting Goods's Facebook page:

https://c3.staticflickr.com/9/...234_ce55d6e74b_o.jpg

I've only shot pistols with manual safeties, so this appeals to me in theory (it's not an H&K, so I'm not actually interested). Not sure if people will end up riding the slide stop with this safety, looks like the raised "fence" around the slide stop might help with that, though that brings into question the availability of safety-compatible P320 grip modules.
 
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The 320 has a very nice light trigger. For purposes of bullet placement, it might be better then standard Glock trigger pull. Thumb safety on this new striker would work pretty much like a 1911 and seems like a good idea.
 
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I like how it is a usable thumb safety, not tiny, not on the slide!


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Scuttlebutt (including from SIG CS, at one point) was that we wouldn't see these until there was a large institutional order - I wonder which agency is getting these?
 
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Finally!!!!!

Any word on price or availability?


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Looks much better than the goofy original one that SIG showed off.


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I picked up Sig P320 yesterday afternoon at Hunter's Trading Post in Weymouth, MA. I was first on their waiting list having plunked down a $100 deposit in March. With the Sig Night Sights it ran $595 before tax. As to availability, it looks like the MA Compliant Sig P320 Compacts in 9mm hit the shelves yesterday (8/24). As is SOP for MA Compliant pistols your choices of color are black, black, and black and only the 9mm Compacts look to have been shipped. Mine was dirtier than normal suggesting that Sig's quality control staff fired a lot or rounds through the pistol. They do that for law enforcement agencies as part of the contract requirements so this gun was likely part of a law enforcement production run.

There is a tiny cutout on both sides of the grip module to allow the safety to poke through making it ambidextrous. I've been dry-firing with the safety on and it comes off easy enough but I think I'll only use it when holstering. It'll be interesting to see if it's more difficult to disassemble and reassemble with the safety.

The staff at my local gun store said they expect the 320 to be a run away best-seller in Massachusetts. Probably because us civilians aren't allowed to own any Glock's made prior to 1998 which means only Gen I's and Gen II's are legal here. There are lots of Gen III's and IV's on the shelves here but you have to be Law Enforcement to buy them so this Sig P320 will be my first-ever striker fired pistol. (<:
 
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... is this great timing for the Army's Modular Gun System or what?

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Like my P320C; agree with others here, that the compact slide on the SC grip is great for EDC.

Thinking about an external safety and an SC, if it's every offered.


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I picked up Sig P320 yesterday afternoon at Hunter's Trading Post in Weymouth, MA. I was first on their waiting list having plunked down a $100 deposit in March. With the Sig Night Sights it ran $595 before tax. As to availability, it looks like the MA Compliant Sig P320 Compacts in 9mm hit the shelves yesterday (8/24). As is SOP for MA Compliant pistols your choices of color are black, black, and black and only the 9mm Compacts look to have been shipped. Mine was dirtier than normal suggesting that Sig's quality control staff fired a lot or rounds through the pistol. They do that for law enforcement agencies as part of the contract requirements so this gun was likely part of a law enforcement production run.

There is a tiny cutout on both sides of the grip module to allow the safety to poke through making it ambidextrous. I've been dry-firing with the safety on and it comes off easy enough but I think I'll only use it when holstering. It'll be interesting to see if it's more difficult to disassemble and reassemble with the safety.

The staff at my local gun store said they expect the 320 to be a run away best-seller in Massachusetts. Probably because us civilians aren't allowed to own any Glock's made prior to 1998 which means only Gen I's and Gen II's are legal here. There are lots of Gen III's and IV's on the shelves here but you have to be Law Enforcement to buy them so this Sig P320 will be my first-ever striker fired pistol. (<:


Technically Kahr is a striker fired Gun and they made a specific MA legal PM9.


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Looks good.

 
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Looks good to me too. The placement vaguely looks to me that it might block simple manipulation of the slide stop/release. Hard to tell. But one of my favorite features of the P-Series is the location of that slide stop. Hopefully it's just a nuance of the picture.
 
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Dang, will this be available for everyone? I just bought both a full size 9 and a SC 40 in the last 4 weeks and would have preferred the safety models... Oh well.
 
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I like the idea of a manual safety too. Maybe the FCU's can be retrofitted with the safety (doubtful but it would be nice). The new slide release levers can be retrofitted so maybe ...
 
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I know I've been rather harsh on the 320 given my own experiences with my 320C and its trigger but Lordy, a thumb safety of all things! Now if that doesn't just ruin it all to hell. What's a self-respecting striker guy to do? Why go out and buy another Glock and console oneself that the world is still right...in some places. Razz

I've always been curious as to 320's reception in certain quarters due to its lack of a "trigger lock" (so to speak). While the gun has been well received by most, the lack of an auxiliary mechanism (like Glock's Safe-Action bar lock or the M&P's articulated lockout seems to at least psychologically say that the SIG FCU is perhaps, 'less safe', at least in the eyes of product safety zealots and lawyers if not actual users, particularly first-time gun owners. I recall SIG showing a trigger mockup with a Glock-like center lockout disengagement trigger lever early on but nothing to my knowledge ever came of that. Given how smooth and relatively clean most 320 triggers generally operate (particularly compared to Glocks and M&Ps), it would seem that a recipe for pending courtroom disaster was in the offing.

The thumb safety at the very least addresses any such concern going forward. But it does seem kinda crowded given where it's placed.
 
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I get your point, but I've always considered the Glock tab safety much more window dressing than a useful safety device. A thumb safety is a useful safety device.
 
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You definitely don't miss an opportunity to remind us of your opinion.

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I know I've been rather harsh on the 320
 
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soggy_spinout, I think you're working overtime on this. One reason I jumped on the 320 is that I don't have to cuss that damned safety tab in the trigger. At the same time, both the thumb safety and the safety tab in the trigger are available if there's a large enough order - which means that SIG, at least, considers them necessary only if the burocracy of some agency or another does.

Come to think of it, how would that safety tab in the face of the trigger reduce liability? Seriously, think of it in practical terms - how does the safety tab render it less likely that the trigger will be pressed all the way home accidentally? It's a drop safety if anything, and the 320s already come with a drop safety in the form of a passive firing pin safety.
 
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I've always been curious as to 320's reception in certain quarters due to its lack of a "trigger lock" (so to speak). While the gun has been well received by most, the lack of an auxiliary mechanism (like Glock's Safe-Action bar lock or the M&P's articulated lockout seems to at least psychologically say that the SIG FCU is perhaps, 'less safe', at least in the eyes of product safety zealots and lawyers if not actual users, particularly first-time gun owners. I recall SIG showing a trigger mockup with a Glock-like center lockout disengagement trigger lever early on but nothing to my knowledge ever came of that. Given how smooth and relatively clean most 320 triggers generally operate (particularly compared to Glocks and M&Ps), it would seem that a recipe for pending courtroom disaster was in the offing.


The lack of a 'trigger lock' on the P320 might well pose a hurdle for acceptance by the uninformed. However, the specific risk that is addressed by trigger locks on most striker-fired guns does not exist on the P320.

Trigger locks on Glocks, M&Ps and most other striker-fired guns exist primarily to prevent a discharge if the gun is dropped with the muzzle pointing up. Without a trigger lock, the trigger bar in those guns would move toward the back of the gun, in exactly the same manner as though the trigger had been pressed, until the striker was released. The trigger bar on a P320 moves forward to release the striker.

A Glock trigger bar moves backwards, while a P320 trigger bar moves forward (see at 1:55).
 
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Any more word on these? Availability? Hands-on experiences?


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Been waiting to see this.

Personally, I think the addition of an applied safety defeats the entire concept introduced by Glock and sensibly copied by other makers.

The application of thumb safety requires a change in operation that is a detriment to the advantage such pistols offer.

Some say it is a stupid addition. If that is true, it readily explains Uncle Sam's affinity for such a device... Wink


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