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34" Scale 5-String
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I have most of the classic SIG pistols and love each of them for various reasons. However, one issue that I struggle with is rust in the humid climes of Alabama, plus my ability to sweat even in winter months! Here is what I have experienced...

1) P225 (original, not the -A1): One of my most favorite SIGs of all time, yet when carried concealed during summer months it requires VERY frequent cleaning and lube due to its ability to rust quickly. My personal experience is rusting of the mag release button making mag changes impossible if not treated in advance.

2) P229 configured either as .40S&W or .357SIG... very rust resistant except for the extractor plunger... it rusts rather easily without frequent oiling!

3) P226R in 9mm... defies all odds of rust resistance; but should be the same as #2 above.

4) P230SL .380ACP: Carried almost daily with near zero care, and with zero signs of corrosion!

Thoughts?


Bill R.
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Posts: 3648 | Location: Madison, AL | Registered: December 06, 2009Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I had the same problem. I was constantly battling rust on the slide on my K-Kote finish P220. One of my P229's had a mag catch rust in place once after a few weeks of very hot summer weather and my sweating into it. I had to pull it apart and scrape the rust out before oiling it. Kroil helped a lot, but it didn't solve the problems I was having.

I gave up and switched to Glocks. Not a problem since. I know that's not the answer you're looking for and I'm not being flippant, that's just how I resolved it.
 
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More “un-flippantly” desired, and having handled and shot a few Glocks in my lifetime (not including having had to look at the ugly things), I will choose to battle my rust issues and my sweaty body before switching to the Austrian boat anchors!

Let me be clear... I have ZERO complaints about anyone who chooses a Glock for their sidearm. It just so happens that I do not care for them based on personal experience. I know beyond any reasonable doubt that they are very reliable; they’re just not for me. Therefore I will continue to battle the minor issues involving SIG handguns. Smile


Bill R.
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Posts: 3648 | Location: Madison, AL | Registered: December 06, 2009Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I have had mag release rust issues on my P320SC that I carry as an ankle gun. My P320 Carry duty gun has never had a single problem, but its always in a duty holster or OWB holster, so it doesn't ride against my body. I have seen other officers's duty P320s with rust on the slide end cap, and one with rust on the barrel hood and chamber...but their cleaning and maintenance regimen was also quite poor. If I am religious about wiping down and oiling my SC every week or so, I don't have any problems.

My previous duty gun was an older pre-rail P229. It got carried in a duty holster and sometimes IWB. I never once had any problem with rust on that gun except for maybe a tiny bit on the heads of the grip screws.

I also carried a 1979 P6 for a while, no problems with rust there, either.

My currrent carry gun on my own time is a P245. I did have an issue with some surface rust on the slide, but only after doing something I shouldn't have done and leaving it in a leather holster for several days. I cleaned it off with steel wool, oiled it well, and don't do that anymore...the issue hasn't recurred.
 
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Oddly, the only issue I've seen over the last two summers was the mag release pin on my P239 turning brown....

I did stop carrying a Ruger LC9 specifically because of rusting.

Here's what I hope is my long term solution:
 
Posts: 1908 | Location: Greenville, SC | Registered: January 30, 2017Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I use Corrosion-X on all my guns and tools. I never have any rust problems.
Corrosion-X is great stuff.



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I have been carrying a handgun every day for 51 years, 40 years in coastal areas of Florida. Stainless helps but it can rust. If I get thoroughly soaked the gun gets broken down cleaned and lubed. Daily maintenance includes wiping the gun and magazines down with a silicone cloth when I put it away at night, and again when I holster up in the morning. About once a week I give the outside surface a little spritz of Remoil. Following this procedure I have never had a problem with rust.


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Same problem in SC. I treat all of my P series Sig mag releases with Eezox.
 
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Eezox is quite possibly your answer. I love that stuff and I normally don’t get into the best oil/lube discussions.
 
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This. When I was first issued my P220 a few months in to the academy I found and used Eezox. Everytime I clean it I scrub Eezox on with a tooth brush and then wipe off the excess. I've never had another rust issue since.

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Eezox is quite possibly your answer. I love that stuff and I normally don’t get into the best oil/lube discussions.
 
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I was issued an older 'folded slide' P220. Monsoon summer rain and resting my arm on the back of the slide caused rust. It bothered me enough that I had a buddy apply an industrial silver finish to the slide. End of rust.
 
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Glocks are not impervious to rust,

My New G19 rusted up big time, so much it welded the barrel hood to the slide. Glock replaced it, my G43 is on it's second barrel after the crown rusted, and the slide rusted. Glock replaced the slide and barrel, both less than a year old.



 
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Glocks are not impervious to rust,

My New G19 rusted up big time, so much it welded the barrel hood to the slide. Glock replaced it, my G43 is on it's second barrel after the crown rusted, and the slide rusted. Glock replaced the slide and barrel, both less than a year old.


Interesting...care to share environmental circumstances, and what gen the G19 is? I have no doubt that a Glock can rust...I've just never seen it, despite abusing the hell out of my Gen 3 G26.
 
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I had pictures, Gen4 G19, Current Model G43 whatever Gen that would be considered.

Carry both while on Motorcycle outside, OWB, holsters are Blackpoint Tactical on the G43 and a leather OWB on the G19.

G19 went into safe with the G43 being a bit more qualified for duty in FL Shorts weather. It rusted shut, couldn't pull the slide back, had to put the end of the slide on a wood table and pop it hard on the grip to get it to release the barrel from the slide.

FL is humid and hot, and I can only determine that my body sweat is caustic to Glock coatings, as the Glocks I don't carry, ie G40 have no rust.

Glock stood by both, but rust spots on the sides of the slides, barrel hood on G19 and barrel crown on G43.

Replacement barrel on G43 showed some rust last cleaning.



 
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I guess the best answer would be to take better care of your firearms! If you live in a lousy humid place expect to pay more attention to your guns.
 
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HRK, yeah in recent years, Glock finishes aren’t what they used to be. Gen 3 and older are basically rust proof. I have pretty caustic sweat, and if I could have rusted up a Gen 2 or 1, I would have by now, no question.

bronicabill, I hope you find something that works for you. I like SIG pistols, I just gave up on them for carry partly for the rust problems is all. Maybe some day I’ll try again with one that’s had a CPII job done on it to give me better odds.
 
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Originally posted by HRK:
Glocks are not impervious to rust,

My New G19 rusted up big time, so much it welded the barrel hood to the slide. Glock replaced it, my G43 is on it's second barrel after the crown rusted, and the slide rusted. Glock replaced the slide and barrel, both less than a year old.


Interesting...care to share environmental circumstances, and what gen the G19 is? I have no doubt that a Glock can rust...I've just never seen it, despite abusing the hell out of my Gen 3 G26.


 
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Bill: As a former Alabamian and P-series fan, my sympathies. (I also share your sentiments on the Glocks.)

The humid southern climate turned me into a total freak when it comes to oiling guns. My cleaning process, generally, is as follows on all metal parts:
- brake cleaner (non-chlorinated)
- Hoppe's 9 (fwiw, I've had success using it to remove rust--just keep rubbing with a cotton cloth)
- tw25b on the rails and other parts that obviously have rubbing (i.e., top of barrel on P-series)
- a LOT of Mobil 10w30 on every metal part (I use a clean cotton cloth saturated with oil for wiping)

My carry guns (all are all-metal guns) leak oil profusely for at least a week after cleaning, and that's fine with me, since none have rust/corrosion.

I clean my carry guns at least every 60 days, if I don't shoot them. If I sweat on them one day, I wipe with Hoppe's and then re-oil.

Over the years, I've also gotten away from IWB carry. Even with thick leather between me and my weapon, my sweat in hotter climates would get to my gun. If sweat is indeed salt+water, it's really bad. All my holsters are now Wright Leather OWBs, except my Miami shoulder, which I think is a Galco.


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I had heard that post gen 3 the glock finished got less durable, which was part of the reason for my question...but that's a gen 3 in Wishbone's photo. Holy hell that's bad! I giess in a salty, humid environment, anything can rust!
 
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That glock is literally on the deck of a boat.

That didn't happen overnight. That firearm was neglected.

Anyone who leaves a firearm out (whether its near salt water or not) and doesn't properly care for said firearm doesn't get to complain about it.





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