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+1, that fact that it comes in a syringe makes it even better! -BK "If it's all the same to you, I'd really prefer to visit the range." |
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another +1, works great, nothing sticks to the lube or the lubed surface. Doesn't help silence slide wiggle though... Sig 239 40S&W Siglites Hogue rubber grip |
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TW-25b help with a loose 239 I had. Love that stuff. |
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Well this thread rocks. Thanks, Flork!
And mil-comm just got another customer. |
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TW-25b is what was recommended to use on all Sig's when I attended Armorer's School.
This is what we used to lube the guns in the cleaning / relube phase of the Sig 556 operators class I took at Epping in 2008. TW-25b is what I'm currently using on all my guns, but I just picked up a syringe of Shooter's Choice Red to try. At one time a sample tube of TW-25b was enclosed with each new gun. Some of my new Sig's had the TW-25b sample, and some had the Miltec-1 sample. I feel Flork's mixture is worth a look. There is always another way to skin a cat, so they say. |
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I believe that both Bruce, and Flork are not fans of TW25B as it is not viscous enough. I know that is the case on Alloy frame SIGs, not sure about Stainless Sigs.
Bruce Comments on TW25B "Sometimes Magic sounds like Tape" -- The Amazing Johnathan |
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If you do as Mill-comm advises and apply to the rails, then buff off leaving no visible grease behind (to attract dirt, etc. ) there is NO viscosity issue. There is no viscosity at all! Is it the general consensus that TW25B should not be relied upon for the rails on alloy guns? Mill-com says otherwise. It also came with my P239 NIB. Sig 239 40S&W Siglites Hogue rubber grip |
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I'm glad to know that we've got advisors that know more than Sig Sauer about their own products! (Sarcasm) "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." - Thomas Jefferson ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ |
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As long as you use enough and keep it on there, I see no problem with it. The stuff runs a bit more than most greases I recommend, but it still works. "Own enough guns that your wife will never notice a gun or 2 being added or taken away from the collection." Leonard Novak - "Thee Gambler" (SASS) |
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Scott, thank you for the excellent info!
I was a gradual convert to grease several years ago, ( and Bruce schooled me up on proper levels of grease application, depending on the intended use, during one of his classes in Epping. ) I started off with Shooter's Choice and now I mostly use Slide Glide lite for all of my semi-autos: rifles, shotties and pistols. As a unit armorer, I see alot of soldiers who never apply lube of any sort to their rifle, pistol or machine gun, then they're surprised when it stops functioning for them at the range.  It's gotten to the point that whenever I issue out any of my weapons to the guys prior to a range, I stand there and make them spray some CLP into the innards of their weapons before they leave the arms room area. A few guys have came back to me and said they never knew how much of a difference putting some lube on a weapon makes.   ------------------------------ "Also I heard the voice of the Lord saying who shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, here am I, send me." ------------------------------  ------------------------------ GCO member |
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Bruce is considered by many to know more than Sig Sauer about their own guns. Just because they design and make them doesn't mean they know what's the absolute best for them. "Own enough guns that your wife will never notice a gun or 2 being added or taken away from the collection." Leonard Novak - "Thee Gambler" (SASS) |
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Wow! Am I under lubed!! I always thought I should use just enough oil to create a lite sheen and nothing more. I will have try the grease, thanks Flork
---------------------------- Guns? Yes, more than need but not more than I want... |
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Any chance you or Randy might do a post like this for revolvers?
I use my 642 for EDC and when I asked a question about grease on revolvers over on S&W forum, most folks advised oil only. I assume it has to do with several things like the action being more enclosed, no reciprocating slide, and the recommendation to not fully disassemble revolvers too routinely. But I can't help wondering if a light coating of grease wouldn't be better than just oil. <><><><><><><><><><><><><> "Some cause happiness wherever they go; others whenever they go." - Oscar Wilde |
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Yea, you should smear as much grease as you can all up and down the barrel and the wheel! Rub a little on the trigger and the hammer as well!  "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." - Thomas Jefferson ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ |
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JAFO,
I'll talk to Randy about that. The man knows revols better than S&W does. I'll leave that to him. Flork "Own enough guns that your wife will never notice a gun or 2 being added or taken away from the collection." Leonard Novak - "Thee Gambler" (SASS) |
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Gosh, Steve. That kinda makes me wonder where you hide your revolver!  <><><><><><><><><><><><><> "Some cause happiness wherever they go; others whenever they go." - Oscar Wilde |
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i'm not quite sure abut the sarcasm many good 1911 smiths (Bruce is among them) know more than the factories about keeping them running...the same goes for the AR-15 and S&W wheelguns. the top Python pistolsmiths certainly isn't empolyed by Colt. why would that surprise you? ______________ People that are trying to make the world worst never take a day off, why should I...Light up the Darkness ~ Bob Marley Upcoming Grayguns classes, http://www.GraygunsTraining.com |
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Nice.  "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." - Thomas Jefferson ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ |
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Based on my experience with aircraft, you'd be amazed about what the factory doesn't know. They simply don't use their product to the extent or in ways customers do. Typically, the engineering staff focuses on new products, minimizing production problems, reducing costs, etc. rather than on maintenance. On the other hand, even the most knowledgeable/gifted technicians (who should know) are often simply ignored by management . . . YMMV.
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I use a syringe as well. I bought mine here. IMO they are much easier to use than a brush etc. I just scoop in the slide glide.
“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.” - Winston Churchill - |
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