Flork's Lubrication Recommendation

August 19, 2009, 08:40 PM

1lowlife

quote:
Originally posted by KevinCW:
Flork,

At what temps should you go to a lighter or heavier grease?

Kevin

Slide-Glide Lite (thin viscosity)

Applications:

30+ degrees F
All Firearms:
Centerfire Pistols: Non-compensated & Compensated
Rifles: All action types (including Lever Actions)
Shotguns: All action types
Revolvers (Internal action parts only - not for the cylinder)
.22's
"Carry Guns" Applied extremely sparingly (for maximum reliability)
Slide-Glide Lite's viscosity is blended specifically for "IPSC Open guns" in any temperature, and also works great on the Glock's "connector." (More details below.)

Slide-Glide Standard (medium viscosity)
Applications:

60+ degrees F
Semi-automatic, Centerfire:
Pistols (non-compensated)
Rifles
Shotguns
Slide-Glide Standard was originally blended for "stock-type" pistols in temperatures above 60 degrees. Its viscosity is a little too thick for compensated pistols, .22's, and revolvers.

Slide-Glide Heavy (heavy viscosity)

Applications:

80+ degrees F
Semi-automatic, Centerfire:
Pistols (non-compensated only!)
Pistols with "loose top ends" (Glocks, Sigs, etc.)
Slide-Glide Heavy's viscosity is specifically blended for pistols with "loose top ends" (frame to slide fit). In temperatures above 80 degrees, it also works well in non-compensated, centerfire pistols.

http://www.brianenos.com/pages/slide-glide.html

August 19, 2009, 09:41 PM

architect

quote:
Originally posted by sig229steve:
Could you give a description of what you mean by "hydrolock"?

Sounds to me like informal shorthand for "hydraulic lock," ie. when a non-compressible substance gets into a place in a mechanism where it's designer expects there to be air, etc. The give is gone, the thrill goes too.

August 19, 2009, 10:45 PM

sig229steve

quote:
Originally posted by Flork:
Basically make it so goopy with extra lube that the slide doesn't run.

Grease attenuates slide velocity, so if you have enough of it in the mechanism it can slow the slide velocity enough to cause feeding issues.

If you were to completely fill every crevase of your gun with grease, you'd probably cause that to happen.

That's kinda what it sounded like, but I hadn't heard that term used with firearms before. I'd always heard it used with internal combustion engines.

August 19, 2009, 10:51 PM

P220forever

I may grease my rails daintily, but I oil the bore with reckless abandon!

August 19, 2009, 11:09 PM

sig229steve

quote:
Originally posted by P220forever:
I may grease my rails daintily, but I oil the bore with reckless abandon!

Are we talking about your pistol or your "gun"?!!

August 20, 2009, 02:37 AM

badkarma56

quote:
Originally posted by sig229steve:
quote:
Originally posted by P220forever:
I may grease my rails daintily, but I oil the bore with reckless abandon!

Are we talking about your pistol or your "gun"?!!

August 20, 2009, 07:03 AM

Oz_Shadow

Tried bacon grease yet ? You get to eat the bacon you know.

Damn, this thread made me hungry.

Cereal or something worse ...... hmm.......

August 20, 2009, 08:46 AM

Flork

Oz,

YOu must have a serious case of A.D...........OOH Shiny

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August 20, 2009, 08:50 AM

Stinky Bojangles

quote:
The Grey grease I've been playing with recently is a mixture of a couple of industrial lubricants that I've had very good success with so far.

I will buy this!

Mr. Flork, by any chance, any experimentation with Weapon Shield products, specifically their grease?

August 20, 2009, 09:29 AM

Tazman2

quote:
Originally posted by quattro_joe:
FWIW, I use brian enos slide glide, or super lube, which is a synthetic grease that has an operating temperature of -45 to +450 degrees. So far I am pretty happy with it, and use it on my carry gun.

I also use slide glide lite on ALL my guns. My AK, Sig and my carry Glock 26 with its sloppy top. I know their website says to use the heavy but I figured since most people use oil anyways and hardly have issues so in this case grease period > oil. I figure why complicate it and go heavy and take the chance of it locking up the gun when needed especially since I hardly ever fire it past the initial 400ish rounds and is strictly carry now!

August 20, 2009, 11:55 AM

SouthernPride

Flork what do you think of Mil-Comm TW-25

August 20, 2009, 12:46 PM

Tempest

quote:
Originally posted by Stinky Bojangles:
quote:
The Grey grease I've been playing with recently is a mixture of a couple of industrial lubricants that I've had very good success with so far.

I will buy this!

Mixing finished lubricant products should be done carefully. There are many components to a lube and they are ballanced to work together.

Corrosion inhibitors, anti-wear, friction modifiers, extreme pressure adds, certain base oils...all compete with each other for attachement to the surface of the metal. If you mix in chemistries that are not designed to work together, you can wind up with inferior results. Finished lube products are put together with all of these things in mind.

quote:
Interactions among surface-active additives can lead to less-than-expected lubricant performance.

http://www3.interscience.wiley...l/112469509/abstract

August 20, 2009, 08:00 PM

2Adefender

Thanks for the great post Flork. I've recently become a convert to Slide Glide, after using FP-10 oil on the rails for years. I noticed the oil dries out after a while, but the grease just stays where you put it.

I'll be interested in your other lube recommendations for internal parts.

August 20, 2009, 08:14 PM

rimler

Thanks for the post. Very informational.

August 20, 2009, 08:25 PM

sig229steve

quote:
Originally posted by 2Adefender:
Thanks for the great post Flork. I've recently become a convert to Slide Glide, after using FP-10 oil on the rails for years. I noticed the oil dries out after a while, but the grease just stays where you put it.

I'll be interested in your other lube recommendations for internal parts.

You want to see an oil that is equal to grease in stay put and superior in lubrication? Try Prolix XTra-T. I've been trying a lot of stuff and it beats anything I've seen. I've sent some to Flork at my expense (I'm in no way affiliated with Prolix) and he's going to check it out. I'm betting he'll be as impressed as I have been when he uses it. Check it out here: Prolix product info

August 21, 2009, 10:00 AM

yanici

You guys are making me nervous. I just sent in an order for $100 worth of the Slip 2000 EWL and EWG. Gonna take me a while to use it up. It better be good!

August 21, 2009, 11:58 AM

sig229steve

quote:
Originally posted by yanici:
You guys are making me nervous. I just sent in an order for $100 worth of the Slip 2000 EWL and EWG. Gonna take me a while to use it up. It better be good!

I just took a look on their site. That shit is expensive! And I thought the Prolix and Gun Butter was expensive.

August 21, 2009, 12:34 PM

josey

Flork , what about TW-25b grease ? I use it in abundance in all my pistols and my rifles, AR-15 and VZ-58 ... On the rifles, particularly I found out that it doesn`t allow the powder residue to stick to the chamber and the interior , so it is very easy to clean the rifles after a shooting session . No wonder the military uses the stuff ...!!!