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For CZ Fanatics... A Very Early CZ-75 B

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November 21, 2019, 03:07 PM
Bill-in-Texas
For CZ Fanatics... A Very Early CZ-75 B
I got a very early production “B” model over the weekend.

I really didn’t know much about the inception of the firing pin block (B) model when I bought this pistol. But, what I’ve learned about it is very unexpected.

According to information on “The Original CZ Forum,” the lowest known “B” model serial number is “N7xxx.”

*As of 11/22/19, my pistol (N2xxx) has been identified to be the lowest “B” model seen; the “sticky” now updated by the moderator.

Here are particulars of my pistol:
- SN N2xxx
- Deep blue finish
- Transitional roll stamps
- No import marks

Anyway, for me this is part of the fun... you never know what you’ll find on the used market. I’ve wanted a CZ-75 variant for a while, now. I just never anticipated my dumb luck!

*Pictures edited for decreased bandwidth.

-Bill







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November 21, 2019, 03:35 PM
tha1000
a little bit earlier and you could have avoided the firing pin block...


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November 21, 2019, 04:19 PM
Dakor
Need bigger pics so I can make out the atomic structure.
November 21, 2019, 05:42 PM
Bill-in-Texas
quote:
Originally posted by Dakor:
Need bigger pics so I can make out the atomic structure.


Yep...!

I will try to decrease them through the picture site.
I’ve not had this problem before; I’m sure there’s a way to normal-size the pics.


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November 21, 2019, 06:50 PM
GeoJelly
quote:
Originally posted by Dakor:
Need bigger pics so I can make out the atomic structure.


Now, that's funny Smile. Your pix over on SWF are easier on the eyes since they have some kind of auto-sizing functionality running there. Huge pix or not - that's a beautiful CZ!!
November 21, 2019, 07:00 PM
ace73
Nice find! What is the date on the slide?
November 21, 2019, 07:21 PM
Bill-in-Texas
quote:
Originally posted by ace73:
Nice find! What is the date on the slide?


93...
This is an example of a very early “B” model, CZ-75 Bs were begun in 1993.


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November 22, 2019, 06:15 AM
19tass
Beautiful! Congrats!
November 24, 2019, 01:07 PM
Bill-in-Texas
Thank you. I’m always “on the hunt” for something different from the typical finds.


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November 24, 2019, 07:03 PM
gearhounds
Very nice; no import marks- possibly a serviceman bring-back in a duffel bag?




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November 25, 2019, 01:08 AM
pshooter62
I bought mine new in box in 2000, but it is stamped 96. People tell me they built some for the Turkish govt. And the Turks cancelled the order, so the guns sat in a warehouse for 4 years. Wish mine had the nice blued finish yours has. Mine is the black polymer spray on crap.
November 25, 2019, 09:11 AM
MidWesternBoy
Love the blued finish. I lucked into a very nice no-import 88 pre b poly coat. Always on the lookout for the blued ones though.


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November 25, 2019, 09:18 AM
FN in MT
I saw my first CZ 75 in 1978 or early 1979. Don't recall the finish exactly but I think it was black paint.

The guy who had it was some sort of Fed. I was at Ray's Sport Shop in NJ. Lots of LE hung out there and they moved a LOT of firearms to LE Agencies.
November 25, 2019, 09:29 AM
hjs157
quote:
Originally posted by pshooter62:
I bought mine new in box in 2000, but it is stamped 96. People tell me they built some for the Turkish govt. And the Turks cancelled the order, so the guns sat in a warehouse for 4 years. Wish mine had the nice blued finish yours has. Mine is the black polymer spray on crap.


Bill - Congratulations on a great find with apologies for the slight thread drift. The CZ 75 is among my favorite 9mm pistols. Your blue finish model is stunning.

pshooter62 - Here is an excellent piece re: the CZ 75B Military. Don't discount the polymer finish either. It is very durable with parkerizing underneath.

https://czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=14710.0
November 25, 2019, 02:05 PM
parabellum
CZ no longer offfers that high polish blue finish. It's somewhat fragile when compared to standard bluing, but it is very handsome. Here's my CZ75 Compact in high polish blue, produced in 1999.




Here's a pic of it I intentionally overexposed slightly in order to better show the finish.




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November 25, 2019, 03:38 PM
sigfreund
A comment about GI bring-backs. When I left Germany in 1986 there were restrictions on the guns that permission (by the ATF?) would be granted to take to the US. Strangely, one of the restrictions was no revolvers with ~2" barrels, even if, like the S&W J frame models, they were originally produced in the US. I therefore have a model 65 with 3 inch barrel and German proof marks.

On the other hand, I know of no reason why the topic gun would have had to have been smuggled in someone’s duffle bag. Considering the customs checks in effect even in 1986, such an attempt would surely have been discovered—to the service member’s great detriment. I still have an HK P7 PSP that was imported completely legally and bears no import marks.




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November 25, 2019, 04:00 PM
RHINOWSO
^^^^
Yes, there is no issue with individual imports being brought back legally, with no import marks required. You occasionally see SIGs like that here from time to time - several German made P239s and P229s have been posted over the years with no import marks IIRC.

OT, that's a beautiful CZ you have there. Just gorgeous.
November 25, 2019, 05:46 PM
pshooter62
Thanks for the link hjs 157. I didn't know any of that. Mine also has the thumbrest grips .
November 25, 2019, 11:35 PM
SigFan
Beautiful old specimen there! I’ve recently become a huge fan of CZs, having purchased 3 different models in the last 20 or so months.


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November 28, 2019, 07:54 AM
Bill-in-Texas
Thanks for all the kind comments. And, also for the link hjs157, I thank you. I’m learning something new about CZs and their clones daily, it seems.

What started as a time-killer while new tires were put on my car, turned into a very happy discovery in a nearby sporting goods store. I had about an hour to kill and it seemed like a good way to spend it. Imagine my surprise to see a blued “B” under the glass counter!

-Bill


Former US Army, Sgt., 82nd Abn. Div. Paratrooper,
Infantryman, (81mm Mortars) Certified Armorer

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