So I have family in town and by family I mean folks who taught me to shoot, were instrumental to Small Arms Review and basically have access to all manner of firearms happiness.

Since they were in town we of course went shooting and I let them raid the armory and it is tough to impress folks who have access to machine guns/suppressors/etc. on a whim and one of the guns they wanted to take out was the brig tac.

The only real Beretta 92 experiences they have had were with 93rs or clapped out ill maintained M9s. So they were prepared for disappointment.

All they kept saying was how Smooth the brig tac was how nice it he Trigger was and just how utterly pleasant and fun it was to shoot. My 92’s are smooooooth but my brig tack is like smooooooth like dragging your finger across an oiled velvet Elvis painting.

Its not easy to impress folks who get to shoot whatever whenever but they just kept asking to run that Beretta.

So what I am saying is the Brig Tac is a very smooth operator. Hell my 92a1 is butter but my Brig Tac makes it feel like you are dragging the slide across broken glass. .

So if you are on the fence with a Wilson worked over Beretta.....just do it. It will give you giggle face.

Truth. I have the Brig and the Compact, both are wonderful.

Question: Did that Brig Tac have the action tune? That takes the pistol to a whole different level! I waited about 11 months for my Brig Tac, and it was well worth it. A month and a half ago I ordered a Cen Tac, with the action tune as well.

Yes, if you are on the fence, jump off and get one! With the action tune!

Well, I'll be the one without the giggle face with the WC. I also have a WC Brig Tac with the action tuned that I wrote previously that I was disappointed with the trigger in SA mode. It has a noticeable creep right before the sear breaks, which immediately reminded me of the CZ trigger creep. I was expecting something that breaks like glass (no creep) for a WC tuned gun. Too many things going on, and I haven't had the chance to contact WC until now. Waiting to see what they have to say.

In contrast, I just received my P226 LDC back from Robert Burke yesterday which he did his magic on (Carry Level Action job with the Quick Trigger Reset (QTR)), and, I'll tell you, the WC got nothing on this Burke tuned LDC.
This is the same LDC I wrote about originally that had a horrible trigger, >P226 LDC<.

Burke tuned P226 LDC: no creep/ breaks like glass at 3.25 lbs averaged.

WC action tuned Brig Tac: definite creep, breaks at 4.25 lbs averaged.

Both DA pulls are smooth, but Burke's is smoother.

My WC 92G is the finest SA/DA platform I’ve ever shot. Action feels like it’s on ball bearings. The trigger pull in DA is so light and the SA is so crisp. Absolutely LOVE this pistol that I bought a second on in Armor Tuff Green that’s still in the box.

Just ordered the Centurion. Was told that it’s better than the full size and recoil impulse is smoother too. Can’t wait to get it.

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Originally posted by 12131:
Well, I'll be the one without the giggle face with the WC. I also have a WC Brig Tac with the action tuned that I wrote previously that I was disappointed with the trigger in SA mode. It has a noticeable creep right before the sear breaks, which immediately reminded me of the CZ trigger creep. I was expecting something that breaks like glass (no creep) for a WC tuned gun. Too many things going on, and I haven't had the chance to contact WC until now. Waiting to see what they have to say.

In contrast, I just received my P226 LDC back from Robert Burke yesterday which he did his magic on (Carry Level Action job with the Quick Trigger Reset (QTR)), and, I'll tell you, the WC got nothing on this Burke tuned LDC.
This is the same LDC I wrote about originally that had a horrible trigger, >P226 LDC<.

Burke tuned P226 LDC: no creep/ breaks like glass at 3.25 lbs averaged.

WC action tuned Brig Tac: definite creep, breaks at 4.25 lbs averaged.

Both DA pulls are smooth, but Burke's is smoother.

Check to make sure the trigger bar isn't rubbing on the inside of the grip.

Here is directly from their CS Specialist,

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Well, the stock trigger, even with the action tune, will have a certain amount of creep. This is normal with most Berettas. The only way to help this would be to have us install our Deluxe Hammer and trigger bar. This would help to essentially eliminate your trigger creep.

I'm just going to keep it the way it is and shoot the heck out of it.

Got to chime in on Robert Burke, he does amazing action work.

I remember when Robert was working out of his garage in Carrollton. Back then his work was amazing. Still is....except it's not a secret anymore.

12131: Trust me when I suggest checking to see if the trigger bar is rubbing on the inside of the grip panel. Several owners have found this to be the case.

Mine does not have the action tune but the trigger on my example is wonderful. I just got lucky I guess.

Honestly the standard brig tac is just a factory 92 with different parts and frame. I don’t see any real difference in the quality in which it was assembled. Mine felt no different then my well worn 92. What 92 doesn’t feel like it’s on ball bearings?

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Originally posted by Dusty78:
Honestly the standard brig tac is just a factory 92 with different parts and frame.

Yep. Just slap on a few fancy parts.

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What 92 doesn’t feel like it’s on ball bearings?

And, yep. I would be concerned if your 92 doesn't feel like it's on ball bearing.

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Originally posted by 12131:
Yep. Just slap on a few fancy parts.

Yea, but it needs a coin!

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Originally posted by sprg03-A3:
12131: Trust me when I suggest checking to see if the trigger bar is rubbing on the inside of the grip panel. Several owners have found this to be the case.

I can tell you that the creep has nothing to do with the rubbing you mentioned. It's inherent in the system, even with the action tuned, as stated by the WC Support guy. Took off the right grip panel. The TB moves freely. The creep remains. I'm not talking about SA light uptake travel. That's already out of the equation. I'm talking about the final resistance before you give the trigger the final squeeze, and the sear breaks, and the gun goes bang. When I'm deliberate, I no doubt am able to detect the creep. Like I said, I'll just shoot the heck out of it.

Keep in mind an "action tune" on a BrigTac is NOT a trigger job. Its a lighter spring and a fluff and buff of rotating/sliding parts. If they touch the sear at all, its a quick hit with polish or a stone. Not a trigger job. The 92's trigger can be made nicer still but due to excise tax issues, WC won't do more than just basic stuff unless you take delivery of the gun first and send it back to them.

I just pulled mine out and compared it to my P226 SAO Legion with a Wolff 17 lb mainspring, a very nice trigger. My Brig Tac doesn't have the creep in SA you describe as best as I can determine. There is a bit of travel, but it is smooth, pretty darn good for a DA/SA combat pistol. On top of that it actually has less travel once you reach the point where you feel resistance than my SAO Legion. Now my P226 SAO RX is a bit of a different story, with less travel and a lighter and smoother trigger pull just before the break. May be a big part of the reason it is the most accurate pistol I have ever shot. Guess I got kinda lucky! Hopefully my Cen Tac is as good. And hopefully yours smooths out with use too.

My WBT is one I’ll never sell, its one of the smoothest non custom I own!

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Originally posted by Dusty78:
Honestly the standard brig tac is just a factory 92 with different parts and frame. I don’t see any real difference in the quality in which it was assembled. Mine felt no different then my well worn 92. What 92 doesn’t feel like it’s on ball bearings?

The whole reason I use my 92 FS to train out my jerking down and right is due to its ball bearingness. It's gotten to the point I feel the looseness of my sigpro 2022 hammer because of it. I'm not to into smithing, but the standard 92 is the best feeling trigger ever, outside of my ruger precision.