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I know this was discussed recently and probably more than that.... can someone lead me to the discussion on DAK triggers?

Seem I just bought a P239 off Gunbroker with one.... did not realize it was DAK until after I placed my bid and then kind of assumed since I was the first bidder I would be out bid... but it did not happen.


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Type in "DAK" in your search box. Tons on discussions on it.


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Just for your information, I will let you know that I actually like the DAK trigger. took a bit of getting used to but with practice you should have no trouble adjusting. I can shoot it just as accurate and as almost as fast as my Sig DA/SA. The DAK does have the advantage of not having to de-cock when not empty a magazine which makes it safer for those not familiar with a DA/SA.
 
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What Gundog55 said.
 
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Me, too!

The pistol lent me for my CPL class was a P239 9mm in DAK. Am no sharp shot by a long shot, but shot the center out of the bull's eye with the first try Big Grin

As far as I'm concerned, you did very well!!! Smile

I absolutely love DAK!

Was able to have Robert Burke convert my M11-A1 to DAK, also Big Grin




 
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Here's my story, and I'm sticking to it.. for a long time I was into DA/SA pistols in 9mm. Carried a Sig P230 (.380) for a good number of years, I switched to a Ruger LC9 to step up to 9mm and give this new fangled striker fired system a try... the two issues I had with the Ruger were it rusting from me sweating in the summer and being a little uneasy with striker fired for carry (something getting caught in the trigger guard when holstering) At about the same time I stepped 'up' to Sigs when I bought a standard P226. I also decided to go double action only with carry and tried both a P290 and P250 liked both of them but then fell back on DA/SA by going with a P239, which I wanted a number of years ago but could not afford. I really like the feel, look and shooting of the p239.. now my latest whim is to try the 357 sig caliber. On another whim I bid on a p239 in 40 cal on gun broker with the sure knowledge someone would go over my maximum initial bid.... $450......... well dang it seems I was the 'winner' and I then discovered it was a DAK model...according to some of you all I need to convert this 40cal to 357 is a barrel.. and also specific 357 mags even though some say the 40s will work... So, I not only have the pistol on the way but also a barrel and have already received the mags...


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I for one love a DAK sig.
 
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I’m another DAK fan. I have a lot of options for pistols to carry so I don’t really use this one much but it’s still a good trigger and the P239 is a great pistol.



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I have two. The first I acquired previously belonged to a deputy sheriff. Has a great trigger. The second is an sas version. Both in 40. I have changed the sas to 357 Sig. It has a heavier trigger. I am about to install an 18# hammer spring. Hopefully that will take care of it. Love the DAK trigger system. Both are 229's.


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I picked up the P239 with a DAK trigger yesterday and I have some questions... while driving home I would rack the slide and trip the trigger hold the trigger back and rack the slide again and sometimes the DAK (first click) would not engage... it seems to work more reliably if I hold the pistol horizontal like when shooting it and also if I rack it as fast and hard as possible?

second issue: this does not seem like that short a pull on the trigger for the first reset.. seems almost all the way out...like maybe an eight of and inch before the full reset?


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If the DAK mechanism is working properly, almost any rearward movement of the slide after the trigger is pulled and held to the rear should position the trigger bar so that the trigger will reset at both points. That’s what happens when the gun is fired. The position the gun is being held should make no difference.

Assuming I understand correctly what you’re doing, the trigger should hit two reset points as it’s allowed to move forward. I cannot think of a mechanical problem that would prevent that, but assuming the gun was previously owned, perhaps something inside is gunked up with dirt and old lube and interfering with movement of the trigger bar. Another possibility, I suppose, is that you’re just not feeling the first reset. Have you tried allowing the trigger to move about two-thirds of the way forward and then pulling it back to check if it’s reset? If it actually resets but you don’t feel/hear it, again something may be affected by dirt or other residues.

The true test of the mechanism, though, is obviously to fire the gun. If it functions normally, I’d still be puzzled by the failure of the short reset when manually cycling it, but not be too concerned. If the problem continues, though, I would first replace the trigger bar spring.

As for how far the trigger moves before reset, there will be some variation among individual guns, but to know for certain how much that is, it’s really necessary to measure it rather than relying on feel. And the “short” reset is indeed rather long. I just checked one of my DAK P239s and from having the trigger all the way back, it moves about 0.65 inch to the first reset point, and a total of about 1.0 inch to the full or “long” reset point. The first reset is short only in comparison to the full; it’s not like the single action reset of a DA/SA SIG.




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I've got two DAK's, a P229 and a P220. Had them for a long time. The P229 is my bedside gun. A great trigger IMO FWIW. I've got a lot of other Sigs, so I'm a fan of the DAK trigger.
 
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Growing up shooting and carrying revolvers, the DAK trigger is perfect for me. I too own 2 P239’s a 9mm and a 357 SIG. I also own a P229 DAK.
 
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I took the grips off while servicing the gun and lubed the heck out of the trigger mechanism and it seems to have both functions now... I just did not realize the first position of the trigger would be so far up and close to the second. I like the trigger pull of course the full one better but it is smooth and trips at the right point.


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Good to hear. Thanks for the update.




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239 trigger geometry tends to lead to a slightly heavier pull than the other DAKs. My understanding is there just isn’t as much leverage to work with.

A damaged trigger return spring will result in the first reset becoming problematic. I discovered this swapping a pair of E2 grips out on a 229. Gun still functioned, but you couldn’t feel the first reset and I wasn’t confident about its engagement. New spring and the problem went away.
 
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I’m a fan of the DAK system for duty weapons. It’s an easy system to teach to new shooters who might have a lot more interest in other aspects of the job than shooting. I’m faster and more accurate with SA guns, but not in a way that would likely result in any practical difference in a defensive scenario.
 
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Just checked it again and works fine. 357 Sig barrel along with Crimson Trace laser grips and magazines I bought from a fellow member here should come in tomorrow and I plan to test it out next week. Prefer to go to my gun club during the week and since I'm probably still going to be an invalid from falling off a roof 2weeks ago... got the time.


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Originally posted by Sgt 127:
Growing up shooting and carrying revolvers, the DAK trigger is perfect for me.


^^^^^ This is why I love the DAK system also.




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actually I grew up shooting revolvers too but it did not help me.... even though my father taught me on double action ones he always showed me to shoot single action with them.... I could never shoot as good as him.... ne could put a rattle snakes eye out at around 20ft. (I saw him do it)

later on I did find myself shooting double action, I picked up a S&W model 19 and the trigger was so light with the hammer cocked I decided to learn to shoot it double action....


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