The P365 does have a better trigger, but otherwise, I can't disagree with these goofballs. And the PT111 (or G2C) is often offered for $179 or so.

P365 vs PT111

Well, "It works more better than a P365. Don't be a pussy."

They claim to have fired over 4k rounds thru it out of the box without any cleaning or lubrication, with only a couple of double-feeds."

It's a decent video review from the goofballs.

I have both. For the price the PT111 is hard to beat. I have had my PT111 since it came out and have not had any problems with it. I even got nitesights for it. I also have a P365 that is one of the first ones to come out too and have not had any problems with it. God Bless

Well, if you don't have around $500 to spend on the Sig and you want a double stack magazine pistol the Taurus is an awesome deal. I've had two and they were completely reliable. The low price of the Taurus and the recent price reductions of S&W M&Ps have shown that you can make a reliable pistol with decent to really good levels of quality for fairly low prices.

The G2c is most comparable to the P250 sub-compact. They can even share holsters. As an aside, my G2c functions well with P226 magazines.

Ignoring the whole Taurus reputation issues, the PT111 is a significantly bigger gun, especially in width.

PT111 vs P365???? Really? Those guys should work at a major firearms retailer and see how many Taurus get returned for repair or flat out money back vs how many Sigs of any description come back.

You'd never know this in a smaller shop because they don't return firearms or even offer to send them back to the factory for repair. If they did, they wouldn't sell Taurus anymore.

If the customer needs/wants cheap, sell them a Ruger EC9s/LC9s, at least they work.

With Taurus if you got one that works, congrats. If you didn't good luck. You have maybe a 50/50 chance of getting one thats reliable out of the box.

That may or may not be true of Taurus firearms in general but the G2 is reliable out of the box. Will it outlast a Sig or Glock, probably not but for less than $200 someone can buy a decent reliable gun that will serve the needs of the majority of people.

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Originally posted by sigspecops:
That may or may not be true of Taurus firearms in general but the G2 is reliable out of the box. Will it outlast a Sig or Glock, probably not but for less than $200 someone can buy a decent reliable gun that will serve the needs of the majority of people.

As someone who has done returns on a bunch of them(G2), I disagree.

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Originally posted by sigspecops:
That may or may not be true of Taurus firearms in general but the G2 is reliable out of the box. Will it outlast a Sig or Glock, probably not but for less than $200 someone can buy a decent reliable gun that will serve the needs of the majority of people.

Not really a conversation I wanted to get involved in and I’m not hating on the G2c I think it’s a great gun for the money, but I’m not sure it’s going to outlast a Glock (and I’m not a Glock fanboy, but they definitely have undeniable reliability and longevity).

they just need to fix the trigger and the pt111 would be the bees knees

Yeah, the trigger definitely needs some improvement. The actual pull weight and feel aren't that bad, it's the long pull, where you think the gun should have fired several times before it actually does. Taurus should dump the second strike capability that no one cares about and shorten that pull length.

I don't own any of those model Taurus pistols but the price is right. They are probably the most frequent guns used in crimes and recovered in my city. I don't know about reliability either but many of them are successful at putting holes in people and property..

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Originally posted by gaspipes:

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Originally posted by sigspecops:
That may or may not be true of Taurus firearms in general but the G2 is reliable out of the box. Will it outlast a Sig or Glock, probably not but for less than $200 someone can buy a decent reliable gun that will serve the needs of the majority of people.

As someone who has done returns on a bunch of them(G2), I disagree.

As somebody that won't sell them due to the amount I see break on the range (customers guns they purchased elsewhere) I agree with you.

I own both. The G2C is no P365. To begin with the G2C is bigger - a lot bigger. The sights are not night sights. The trigger is not even close.

For the money the G2C is something special. It is a reliable 9mm and it is fairly concealable. The grip texture is very nice. But its just a hair smaller than a G19. The trigger, and that trigger "catch", can be learned, but its a pain.

But if you want a great trigger, outstanding sights and high capacity 9mm in a gun that can be concealed as easily as a 380, then you will appreciate the P365.

The Sig is special and worth the difference in price.