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West German p228 and P225 questions

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May 25, 2019, 04:21 PM
1lowlife
West German p228 and P225 questions
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Originally posted by Broadside:
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Originally posted by 1lowlife:
I've owned both and sold the P225, to thin for my grip.


Huh?! They are practially the same size.

The info below is from a thread from several years ago. Unfortunately I forgot to save the user name of the original author so I could give them credit.

quote:
225 vs. 228

My original post about thickness of the 225 and 228 pertained to the ability to conceal the two models.

Actual measurements from my guns:
Slide width (average): 225 - 1.006"; 228 - 1.005"; difference - 0.001" (in favor of the 228)
Grip thickness (centered between two grip screws): 225 - 1.256"; 228 - 1.251; difference - 0.005" (in favor of the 228)
Grip thickness (bottom): 225 - 1.254"; 228 - 1.276"; difference - 0.022"
Grip thickness (top, over decocker): 225 - 1.266"; 228 - 1.391"; difference 0.125"

The swell (or bump) at the top of the 228's left grip plate does add 1/8" to the gun's maximum width, but it's only in a very limited area. Because the bump tends to push in against a person's body, it has little, if any, effect on how the gun conceals when actually carried. But if anyone thinks it matters, by all means choose the 225.

As I mentioned above, the grips of the 225 and 228 don't feel the same because the 255's are shorter from front to back and because its trigger is placed in a different location relative to the shooter's hand. For that reason, many people with small hands prefer the 225.
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The 225's grip has a smaller circumference than the 228's and the 225 trigger is closer to the rear of the gun. Also, the 225's grip puts the shooter's hand closer to the top of the gun, requiring the trigger finger to be angled down slightly to the trigger. These factors make the two guns feel distinctively different when handled. In short, the 225 is better for people with smaller hands, but describing the differences is about impossible. If possible, try before you buy.



Grip thickness (width) between the screws:
P225 - 1.256"
P228 - 1.251"

Slide width by ejection port:
P225 - 1.005"
P228 - 1.004"


I wish I cared enough to respond to this dribble..
May 25, 2019, 04:55 PM
12131
quote:
Originally posted by 1lowlife:
quote:
Originally posted by Broadside:
quote:
Originally posted by 1lowlife:
I've owned both and sold the P225, to thin for my grip.


Huh?! They are practially the same size.

The info below is from a thread from several years ago. Unfortunately I forgot to save the user name of the original author so I could give them credit.

quote:
225 vs. 228

My original post about thickness of the 225 and 228 pertained to the ability to conceal the two models.

Actual measurements from my guns:
Slide width (average): 225 - 1.006"; 228 - 1.005"; difference - 0.001" (in favor of the 228)
Grip thickness (centered between two grip screws): 225 - 1.256"; 228 - 1.251; difference - 0.005" (in favor of the 228)
Grip thickness (bottom): 225 - 1.254"; 228 - 1.276"; difference - 0.022"
Grip thickness (top, over decocker): 225 - 1.266"; 228 - 1.391"; difference 0.125"

The swell (or bump) at the top of the 228's left grip plate does add 1/8" to the gun's maximum width, but it's only in a very limited area. Because the bump tends to push in against a person's body, it has little, if any, effect on how the gun conceals when actually carried. But if anyone thinks it matters, by all means choose the 225.

As I mentioned above, the grips of the 225 and 228 don't feel the same because the 255's are shorter from front to back and because its trigger is placed in a different location relative to the shooter's hand. For that reason, many people with small hands prefer the 225.
________________________________________________________

The 225's grip has a smaller circumference than the 228's and the 225 trigger is closer to the rear of the gun. Also, the 225's grip puts the shooter's hand closer to the top of the gun, requiring the trigger finger to be angled down slightly to the trigger. These factors make the two guns feel distinctively different when handled. In short, the 225 is better for people with smaller hands, but describing the differences is about impossible. If possible, try before you buy.



Grip thickness (width) between the screws:
P225 - 1.256"
P228 - 1.251"

Slide width by ejection port:
P225 - 1.005"
P228 - 1.004"


I wish I cared enough to respond to this dribble..

Let me care enough to respond for you. Broadside, in an attempt to prove you being full of it, ironically, proved your point. Those tiny differences in measurements noted above are totally meaningless. Lol.


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May 25, 2019, 05:15 PM
Mike748
I have several of each. They both feel good, but the 225 feels a little slimmer. I used to prefer it, now I prefer the 228. Maybe I will flip flop again in the future. It’s nice to have choices. I just wished the barrels interchanged.
May 25, 2019, 05:55 PM
wgsigs
I believe I agree with the post that Broadside included. I think the reason the P225 grip feels smaller than P228 does not have anything to do with the thickness of the grips. It is because what I call the "cutout" (where the web of your hand goes on the backstrap) is bigger so that the index finger is closer to the trigger. I think the cutout is bigger on the E2 grips, too, which is why they also feel smaller or "thinner".

Regardless, the P225 feels the best in my hand of all the SIGs and I like it the best. However, the P228 is the better all around pistol and is the one I would recommend.

P225 P228
May 25, 2019, 07:49 PM
ShoreGuy
quote:
Originally posted by Broadside:
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Originally posted by throwingdown:
225 900. 228 999.


I'm offering my opinion. But if I had $900 to $1,000 to spend on a pistol I wouldn't be buying a Sig P225 or P228. They just aren't worth that much.

Couldn’t figure out how to embed a pic, but here’s link.

https://imgur.com/gallery/aiuh1dz


quote:
Originally posted by throwingdown:
I think the W German pistols had better QC.


The reason that people think that the West German marked Sigs had better QC is that the ones that didn't have already landed on the scrapheap. Have you seen the tread about the "Lysons Corner" P226's? Does that sound like good QC to you?

I've seen West German P228 slides with defective bluing. I've seen P225's marked as K-kote that were really blued.



West German P228 (first duty weapon)
GOTM Nickel P229