This is more meandering thoughts on a cold winter's day, with snow to be removed and avoiding dealing with it , than anything else.

Back when I was looking for a compact 9mm carry pistol (I settled on the Walther PPS M2) I fondled an H&K VP9 at the LGS. Boy, did that pistol ever call to me! It's been on my mind, ever since.

I'm doing a small, post-retirement side job that's going to bring me some spare bucks and here I am thinking about Yet Another Handgun--which gets me to thinking about the VP9 again. Especially since they came out with the VP9B.

Or maybe another 9mm race gun? I really like my G34, and I shoot it well, but I'm just not all that enamoured of Glocks. I'd be inclined toward the CZ Shadow 2, save for the $1200 price tag. That's kind of steep. This "windfall": Once it's gone, it's gone. So it's not like I have money to burn.

Then there's my Sig P320F in .45 ACP. Shoots like a charm and I find I'm really liking the .45 ACP. The recent P220 Compact karma got me to thinking maybe it would be nice to have a .45 ACP compact for CC?

A carry companion for for my P229S 357 Sig might be interesting, too. Thought I would do that, once-upon-a-time. Then dropped the idea when I couldn't find a P229 in 357 Sig in the condition I wanted for what I wanted to spend.

The problem with another carry pistol is then another holster, mag carriers, and mags. Plus both .45 ACP and 357 Sig are much more expensive to shoot. (Come to think of it: I bought a bunch of 357 Sig mags when I was still planning on buying a P229 in 357 Sig. Hmmm...)

I briefly considered a Ruger SR1911 9mm when they first came out. I have no 1911s, and it seems like I should. 1911s just never tripped my trigger. The Ruger seemed interesting, but product fit and finish was highly-variable at the time. I looked at two of them at a LGS. They looked and felt differently from one another, neither looked like Ruger's photos, and Ruger dismissed my concerns.

Always did want a center-fire combat handgun "replica" in .22 cal. That would probably be the least expensive to buy and shoot, and would probably quench the new handgun wants, but nobody ever seems to get them quite right .

I'm reminded of:

"Frank, let me sum this up for you: you don't know who you are, you don't know what you want, and you don't know what the hell is going on!" - Ghost of Christmas Past, Scrooged

Oh yeah, the "How many guns do you need?" If I buy anything, the love of my life will certainly ask me that question. She won't object, but she will ask the question.

Or maybe I'll win Q's karma and the problem will be solved?

I feel your pain. It's like an insatiable A.D.D. of "oh, something shiny that BOOMS"!

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"How Many Guns Do You Need?"

As many as you damn well like...

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Originally posted by Outnumbered:
I feel your pain. It's like an insatiable A.D.D. of "oh, something shiny that BOOMS"!

TBH: I think that's mostly it

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Originally posted by RHINOWSO:

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"How Many Guns Do You Need?"

As many as you damn well like...

<Looks around...>

"Hon! We're going to need a bigger house!"

How many guns do I need? Just one... of each.

I probably have more than I really need but I like shooting them and enjoy shooting a variety of pistols and when I go to the range I take 3-4 along. I am probably not alone on this but the near constant drumbeat of gun bans/restrictions at the federal and state level has kept me from selling much of anything as far as firearms since the Bill Clinton years. Sure we have a respite with President Trump in the white house but that will not last forever and things are looking ugly at the state level. I am very wary of selling a firearm that I really like, but may not shoot much currently, because the time may come that I really regret selling it and may not able to buy one again, especially at a reasonable price.

How many guns so I need?

One more.

I've found that the informal list in my head never gets shorter, no matter how many I buy.

Here's my VP9 story ensigmatic, just to help you make a decision.

Last year I went to my LGS with full intention on buying a P320. Just wanted to shoot their rental on the range, just to be sure.
When I arrived, it was being used. Guy behind the counter asked "ever shoot a VP9?" I thought why not, maybe I can shoot the P320 next.

Didn't bother with the P320. I left that day a proud VP9 owner. It just shoots and feels so right in my hands.

Not too long ago I bought a P320SC. Got a Vedder holster, put a bunch of rounds through it and love it. I've gotten use to carrying it.

Tuesday I pick up a P365!
I certainly don't need it, but man I do want it!

There’s always at least one more I ”need”... Right now I have a hunger for a CZ SP-01 Tactical, but I’m also hankerin’ for a Glock 43X. And for some inexplicable reason I really want a Beretta Tomcat 3032 Inox. Can’t explain it other than I think it’s such a cool little gun. The list never does get any shorter...

Well, I am an Hk fanboy, so I say get the vp9. I have 4 cz's but they don't call to me like SIG's and Hk's. How many do you need? Well, not many. But life is short, so get what you want

CZ P10C! Less muzzle flip than the VP9, super accurate and cheap!

I picked up a Shadow II a couple of months ago, and really love it! As you noted, a bit pricey, but IMHO well worth it.

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Originally posted by tgtshuter:
Here's my VP9 story ensigmatic, just to help you make a decision.

Last year I went to my LGS with full intention on buying a P320.
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I left that day a proud VP9 owner. It just shoots and feels so right in my hands.

Oh, I can understand that, all right. I was actually in the market for a compact 9mm carry piece and I nearly abandoned that quest for the VP9

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Originally posted by JonFrost:
Well, I am an Hk fanboy, so I say get the vp9.

I might just do that.

Right now I'm mostly leaning toward VP9, Walther PPQ 22 or, *sigh* CZ Shadow 2. (This little side-job's going to have to produce a helluva check for it to be the CZ, though.)

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Originally posted by toto:
CZ P10C! Less muzzle flip than the VP9, super accurate and cheap!

Looks kind of interesting, but I'm not really feeling the need for an improved Glock look-alike, even if it's perfect, and it seems the P10 C has had some growing pains.

I bit too fast on the P320 and I'm still smarting from that. (And I still have to send mine in.)

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Originally posted by 19tass:
I picked up a Shadow II a couple of months ago, and really love it! As you noted, a bit pricey, but IMHO well worth it.

Out of my list, that one certainly has the most "wow factor" attraction, and no mistake.

And I keep looking at this target sitting behind my monitor. I'll have to see if I've a photo, somewhere.

Made a new one. This was a range day when I was checking out an S&W M&P 9. Couldn't shoot for schitt with it. Two of my best friends were there: One with his CZ 75B and the other with his Glock G34. Ran a mag through each.

This is what I did with the CZ, effortlessly.



I subsequently tried to acquire a CZ 75B in satin stainless, but, by then, CZ has discontinued it in favour of polished. Did not like. Went with the Glock.

I'm thinking a Shadow 2, well...

Now's a good time to buy a Dan Wesson V-Bob...

polymer vp09
steel cz shadow,tactical

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Originally posted by nhracecraft:
Now's a good time to buy a Dan Wesson V-Bob...

Yeah... even more expen$ive than the CZ and I'm not really a 1911 guy, so probably not

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Originally posted by tuumunz:
polymer vp09

Less than $600 and can serve as both a range toy and a carry pistol.

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Originally posted by tuumunz:
steel cz shadow,tactical

At $1200 or more: More than twice the cost of the VP9, and it's a range toy only.

That being said: I don't really need another carry piece, and that S2 sure is a nice range toy.

P-30SK LEM V1 is my latest answer to the question: What do I trust my life on carrying concealed, knowing I don't ever want to use it in anger. My 30Sks DA/Sa, ambi safety-decocker is #2 with my Apex/Shield a tie.
Here's more eye candy so I can assure you...I feel your pain!

VP9sk. You’ll scratch your VP9 itch and gain a nice carry gun. I have the P30sk and it’s an excellent pistol to shoot or carry. They aren’t expensive so you’ll have the moola for a holster, and some mags. My mag carriers that worked for my Glock magz work just fine with the P30/sk. Happy hunting.

The CZ Shadow 2 is worth every penny. Search around, they can be found for less than $1,200. But when you do find one, don’t dither, they sell out fast.

how about a USP Expert.

It's the latest pistol that's grabbed my own attention and desire for something with a long barrel.