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Note the new end plate on the back of the slide.

A German LE source told me the new back plate allows the G46 to be decocked so it can be disassembled without pulling the trigger. Apparently disassembly without pulling the trigger is a German LE requirement. I wonder if the rotating barrel is necessary to make the "no trigger pull" disassembly work ?

The requirement to pull the trigger is also apparently why the Glock has been restricted to specialized units in German LE.

A related issue, the Barvarian police are finally looking to replace their P7's so maybe we will see some more PD trade P7's on the market.
 
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As i understand the article,Glock wants to enter the german police market, and so they need to respect the technical guidlines, those guidelines for exemple specifies that the trigger must not be activated to disassemble the gun, this why the firing pin rearplate is bigger and is the way to disassemble the gun.
 
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The list of already approved pistols can be found here.
https://www.beschussamt-ulm.de...t/index.php?lvl=2284

The approved police pistol list includes Walther PPQ M3 and P3 models. The "3" model is described here. The differences in the M3/P3 compared to the M2 include: heavier trigger weight; no trigger pull required for takedown; inclusion of a transponder, and; a back plate with a striker condition indicator like the P99.
 
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Interesting 'frankenstein' lugs on the barrel. Looks different from the Beretta/Stoeger Cougar.


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A related issue, the Barvarian police are finally looking to replace their P7's so maybe we will see some more PD trade P7's on the market.


Now theres a Teutonic striker fired pistol I can get excited about. I'd snap up more P7s in a heart beat.
 
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I don’t see any takedown leavers. Wonder how you disassemble it.
 
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I don’t see any takedown leavers. Wonder how you disassemble it.


The last post on Page 1 touches on that. Apparently the protruding plate on the rear of the slide is manipulated, which allows you to remove the striker assembly, which then allows you to remove the slide from the frame.
 
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Thanks I missed that.
 
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Here's my question:

If this is the Glock 46, what are the 44 and 45? Does this imply these two models are on the road map somewhere? Or perhaps they're skipping them to avoid confusion, which I find doubtful because they didn't with the 22, 38, or 40.


I am pretty certain the "Glock 44 and 45" you speak of are about to be released as "Single-stack Glock variants chambered in .44 Magnum and .45 Long Colt!"

That's my theory, any how.
 
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I don’t see any takedown leavers. Wonder how you disassemble it.


The last post on Page 1 touches on that. Apparently the protruding plate on the rear of the slide is manipulated, which allows you to remove the striker assembly, which then allows you to remove the slide from the frame.


That wont get you to getting the slide off the frame. if you look at the cutaway drawing, there is a takedown latch at the front of the barrel locking block, you can see it between the recoil spring assembly and the locking block. What I dont know is how one would release it.

Without getting that little plate out of the way, the camming lug on the barrel cannot move forward past the front of the locking block and the slide wont come off.

Again, the drawings do not reveal how it gets lowered.

Removing the striker just gets you out of the pulling the trigger to get the slide to go forward past the rear of the strikers travel.


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That wont get you to getting the slide off the frame. if you look at the cutaway drawing, there is a takedown latch at the front of the barrel locking block, you can see it between the recoil spring assembly and the locking block. What I dont know is how one would release it.

The cutaway drawing from the German article is the same as drawing #7 from an article on Recoilweb. The preceeding drawing #6 on Recoilweb (from U.S. patent 20170227313A1) shows a pistol clearly marked "46" but also having traditional Glock takedown levers.

Drawings #6 and #7 do not have a protruding back plate as is shown in the actual photos of the G46 and do not depict how the back plate attached to the striker assembly might function to disassemble the gun.
 
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Here's my question:

If this is the Glock 46, what are the 44 and 45? Does this imply these two models are on the road map somewhere? Or perhaps they're skipping them to avoid confusion, which I find doubtful because they didn't with the 22, 38, or 40.


I am pretty certain the "Glock 44 and 45" you speak of are about to be released as "Single-stack Glock variants chambered in .44 Magnum and .45 Long Colt!"

That's my theory, any how.


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That wont get you to getting the slide off the frame. if you look at the cutaway drawing, there is a takedown latch at the front of the barrel locking block, you can see it between the recoil spring assembly and the locking block. What I dont know is how one would release it.

The cutaway drawing from the German article is the same as drawing #7 from an article on Recoilweb. The preceeding drawing #6 on Recoilweb (from U.S. patent 20170227313A1) shows a pistol clearly marked "46" but also having traditional Glock takedown levers.

Drawings #6 and #7 do not have a protruding back plate as is shown in the actual photos of the G46 and do not depict how the back plate attached to the striker assembly might function to disassemble the gun.


Cool. Thanks.

In the patent application drawing you linked, the text on the right side of the drawing exlpains that you need to pull the latch partially out of the gun to clear the camming lug and release the slide.

The partially withdrawn latch is shown on the drawing too as "6".


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Is Glock going to move to a Pedersen type design next?

I'm confused.
 
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Sig was way ahead of Glock on this. Sig's Rotating barrel striker fired 45


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It does say, "Not for the civilian market"
 
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It does say, "Not for the civilian market"


They started out saying that about the 17/19M.


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Sig was way ahead of Glock on this. Sig's Rotating barrel striker fired 45


Meh, this action’s provenance is about as old as the browning tilting breech. Styer M1912.
 
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Glock's numbering system never made much sense to me.

G44 and G45 - possibly reserved for 40 S&W and .357 Sig versions of the 43? It would make sense, but perhaps any plans are on hold given the perceived move back to 9mm. The used gun case at my LGS is filled with .40's now.

A G19 sized 9mm single stack - basically a 43 with 4" barrel and full grip with at least 8+1 capacity would be nice...
 
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A G19 sized 9mm single stack - basically a 43 with 4" barrel and full grip with at least 8+1 capacity would be nice...


I would love to see that hit the market.



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