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Originally posted by reginaldcrumpepper:

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Originally posted by reginaldcrumpepper:
If one isn't shooting the p365 right now, right now, one is missing all the fun.

They are accurate, and reliable, and great fun. Mine has been shot a way over 1000 times without issue. If nervous about reliability don't carry it, don't count on it in a gunfight.

If the trigger quits, the spring is trivial to replace. If the striker breaks Sig will fix it for free. After it breaks, and Sig sends it back, one will be some more confident in the pistol, and after further shooting and other shooter reports, one can finally carry the pistol. Enjoy shooting the pistol whilst waiting for it to become "proven". Makes sense to me.....

That makes no sense to me.

If I were to buy one of these, and I have said recently it would be a year to 2 out (now probably never), it would be to test it out, have it work, and then put it into immediate rotation for specific purpose.

Not to be a "range toy" or to wait for it to be "proven out." It should have been proven out before release. Period.

Fixing it for "free"- is that supposed to be something exceptional? Not in my book.

Sig has screwed up here, royally.

Those of you who got them, great for you guys. I hope your models don't have issues. But I will not be joining your ranks. This has gotten past the point of just a little ridiculous IMO.

It is pretty hard to find a new model semi auto from any manufacturer that has not had some startup issues. Kahr, Ruger, Glock, Remmington, Kimber and S&W, just to name a few.
Those who wish to wait a few years to find "perfection" in their carry gun are most likely 1911 fans.
To answer what is a "safe date"? That's up to you but personally I own two of these little marvels and carry one of them daily.

June 1, 2021

Well, lets see now. I have been following the P365 issues since its introduction.

I know of one individual who experienced a broken striker twice and one other individual who experienced a dead trigger twice. Both these P365 owners sent their guns back to SIG to get fixed after the initial failure and experienced the exact same failure after they got them back. SIG could not "fix" the problem even after they knew it existed.

I know of one individual who experienced a broken striker after shooting over 1900 rounds and another who experienced a dead trigger after shooting over 1500 rounds. So how many rounds does a P365 owner have to shoot before their pistol is "proven"? Two thousand? Shooting 2000 rounds to vet a carry pistol will increase its cost by around $400.

I know of one owner of a P365 with a June 17 build date that just experienced a dead trigger after around 140 rounds. Based on that, it would seem that SIG has not yet figured out a reliable fix for that known issue.

Is the build date on the 365 or just the box?

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Originally posted by Greymann:
Is the build date on the 365 or just the box?

Only on the box as far as I know

Thanks Warpig, so a used P365 with no box would be a tough decision to buy.

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Originally posted by pblanc:I know of one individual who experienced a broken striker after shooting over 1900 rounds and another who experienced a dead trigger after shooting over 1500 rounds. So how many rounds does a P365 owner have to shoot before their pistol is "proven"? Two thousand? Shooting 2000 rounds to vet a carry pistol will increase its cost by around $400.

At what point does "breaking in" become "wearing out" on a small pistol like this? I have no way of proving it, but I'd bet the overwhelming majority of P365 buyers (not on this board) will NEVER shoot even 1000 rounds. Their pistols will function exactly as they expect them to.

That's not an excuse for substandard parts, but the reality of the market in which Sig sells pistols.

Shoot 2K rounds through a modern pistol shouldn't remotely be close to 'wearing it out'. At most it should be a recoil spring change.

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Originally posted by MNSIG:
At what point does "breaking in" become "wearing out" on a small pistol like this? I have no way of proving it, but I'd bet the overwhelming majority of P365 buyers (not on this board) will NEVER shoot even 1000 rounds. Their pistols will function exactly as they expect them to.

That's not an excuse for substandard parts, but the reality of the market in which Sig sells pistols.

That line of thinking also makes an extremely strong argument for the thing to work right out of the box, period. It shouldn't take a few thousand rounds through a gun to know whether it's going to shit the bed, and any pistol that's designed for defensive purposes shouldn't be anywhere close to "wearing out" at a thousand or two thousand rounds.

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Originally posted by MNSIG:

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Originally posted by pblanc:I know of one individual who experienced a broken striker after shooting over 1900 rounds and another who experienced a dead trigger after shooting over 1500 rounds. So how many rounds does a P365 owner have to shoot before their pistol is "proven"? Two thousand? Shooting 2000 rounds to vet a carry pistol will increase its cost by around $400.

That's not an excuse for substandard parts, but the reality of the market in which Sig sells pistols.

Bingo. Sig is literally hoping people dont shoot them enough to find out.

Sadly its true, most people won't shoot them that often and I think that's why we see so few complaints outside of the gun world. I bet 90% of people who buy the P365 won't shoot more than 500 rounds through it in 10 years. I know the type personally. They buy their carry guns, shoot 50 rounds through it and carry it forever, maybe putting another box through every year or so.

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Originally posted by Greymann:
Thanks Warpig, so a used P365 with no box would be a tough decision to buy.

Id probably hold off for another year or so regardless.

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Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
Shoot 2K rounds through a modern pistol shouldn't remotely be close to 'wearing it out'. At most it should be a recoil spring change.

I'm not arguing with you, but I seriously doubt my LCP would last that long. That thing felt flimsy out of the box.

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Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
Shoot 2K rounds through a modern pistol shouldn't remotely be close to 'wearing it out'. At most it should be a recoil spring change.

I'm not arguing with you, but I seriously doubt my LCP would last that long. That thing felt flimsy out of the box.

I understand where you are coming from, but my original LCP has at least 2K and aside from a failure to go into battery once near the end of a 300rds torture session (hot and dirty by that point) after coming back from the LCP recall, it's never failed me. And I could have limped it as I was shooting one handed and then it never happened again.

But I know I've been spoiled by reliable firearms - my first handgun (P220 W. German) has malfunctioned once in 7K rounds, and that was after 10 years of use. So I grew up expecting guns to just work with minimal excuses.

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Originally posted by Greymann:
Thanks Warpig, so a used P365 with no box would be a tough decision to buy.

Id probably hold off for another year or so regardless.

Yeah, used you have no idea if they are just unloaded it because it's a POS or what.

I looked at them in the shops , I was thinking no way.

Ran a break in check on the B on D 07/10/18 p365 ... 200 rounds and not a single issue. I've ordered two more mags making five total and at the end of this week when they arrive, I'll perform a 500 rd non-stop function test only adding lube to the slide as I go.

When the test is completed I'll call it good or not for my daily carry. It's not a high millage range gun, it's not a target pistol and it's not that much fun putting 200 or I suspect 500 rounds through it in one range session, but it's just about the perfect size and weight for carry.

So far, the sky has not fallen, the ice caps melted or anyone has sailed off the flat edge of the earth since I purchased it ... I suspect I'll be just fine in the long run with my new P365.

Don't you just love an optimist ...lol

My I just got my P365 a couple weeks ago. It has a May build date, and I've fired about 650 rounds through it to date. I've experienced at least one failure to extract for about every 50 rounds fired. A couple times, it got through 100, and then did it in the next 50. Each time, the spent case remains in the chamber, with another round attempting to feed in (a double feed). I've used a mix of 115 gr. and 124 gr. Remington, Blazer brass, Win white box , Speer Gold Dot, and Win Ranger SXT. I think I'm going to call SIG and try to send it back rather than wasting more ammo. I'd note that the extractor looks ok and has tension. On the positive side, I've not had a dead trigger, a failure to feed, stovepipe, or failure to go into battery, when shooting with either strong or weak hand.

Every time I hear about a 365 issue it seems like it's a pre June build date. and I wonder how many run good high quality ammo thru it ? and not the dirty cheap wwb Walmart junk. good quality defense ammo is expensive, I for one dont go to the range and blast thru box after box of the expensive stuff.

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Originally posted by savoy6:
My I just got my P365 a couple weeks ago. It has a May build date, and I've fired about 650 rounds through it to date. I've experienced at least one failure to extract for about every 50 rounds fired. A couple times, it got through 100, and then did it in the next 50. Each time, the spent case remains in the chamber, with another round attempting to feed in (a double feed). I've used a mix of 115 gr. and 124 gr. Remington, Blazer brass, Win white box , Speer Gold Dot, and Win Ranger SXT. I think I'm going to call SIG and try to send it back rather than wasting more ammo. I'd note that the extractor looks ok and has tension. On the positive side, I've not had a dead trigger, a failure to feed, stovepipe, or failure to go into battery, when shooting with either strong or weak hand.

You have experienced more FTF's than I did (I had a May 29 build date), and when I told them I was having extraction issues with multiple magazines on multiple brands of brass-cased factory ammo, they sent me a shipping label the same day.