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I am a newbie and have a dumb question is SIg phasing out the 2022 for the 250?
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Well, it's been rumored for quite sometime, but seeing how the French have a contract for the SP2022 until, 2022, I doubt you'll see them going away anytime soon. So to answer your question, no. http://sigsauer.com/Products/S...yid=33&productid=121
I've shot both, and wound up with the SigPro. Absolutely fantastic pistol and think you cannot go wrong with the SP2022. If you prefer a double action, you can convert from DA/SA to DAO in the 2022. |
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US Border Patrol carry the 2022 as well. Not going anywhere if you ask me. I have one and love it.
Damn glad to be here. |
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Sig has produced around 400,000 of the SP 2022.
I don't think they will fall off the radar anytime soon. Wings without Hooters is just chicken. ✡ |
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Get the 2022-you will not be disapointed.
 Bob  P.S.Welcome aboard!!  |
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Sig seems to want to replace the SP2022 with the P250 but the problem is that the P250 is not an adequate replacement. It is not even a step forward for Sig.
The P250 lacks a DA/SA variant which is the trigger design Sig built its reputation upon.....and with its long as hell DA pull, lack of a short trigger reset, and reliability issues I would not be surprised to see the P250 go out of production before the SP2022. The SP2022 has won some huge LE contracts over the years. To date I can think of only one prestigious LE organization that has adopted the P250....and they ditched their 229s to make the switch.  The SP2022 recently won a contract good for $304 million with DOD......add that to the French contract and it is safe to say the SP2022 will be in production for quite some time yet. Dont believe all the BS rumors you hear. One of Sig Sauer's customer service reps told me that the Sig Pro was discontinued when I tried to order one about a year ago.....not even 3 weeks later a shit load of them showed up at gun shops and online retailers. I sometimes question if Sig even knows what they are doing. ~~~GO COLTS~~~ |
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Too bad our military isn't necessarily getting the SP2022. Now I know where Bud's getting the $439 price for the Sig Pro.
"April 23/09: 55,890 of the polymer-framed SP2022 9mm pistols to Colombia at $439 each, plus spares. Total value is $26.2 million (W52H09-09-D-0158, #0001). To be delivered between July 2009 and February 2011." http://www.defenseindustrydail...rld-2009-2012-05784/ |
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I've been peer-pressured into bashing the P250, but I have to wonder if we're not giving it a fair chance. Okay, so the DAO only trigger option is a real bummer. Isn't it safe to assume SIG will eventually introduce a DA/SA trigger option, then a DAK trigger option, then a DA/SA SRT trigger option? Is the P250 design inherently limited to DAO trigger? The P250 compact has a 3.9 inch barrel, making it comparable to a SP2022, P228, or GLOCK 19. The P250 is dimensionally smaller than a P228 in height, width, and weight, andy only .1 inch longer in length. It has 15 rounds compared to 13 rounds in the P228. The P250 is dimensionally smaller than the SP2022 in every measure, while matching the 15 round capacity. The P250 is not quite as small and light as the GLOCK 19, but the P250 offers interchangeable size and grips, something you don't get with GLOCK. One of my biggest criticisms of the SP2022 is that for a polymer gun, it doesn't offer much of the advantages of polymer guns. It's not smaller than the P228, and only slightly lighter. The P250 seems to fully exploit the possibilities with a polymer frame, unlike the SP2022. I can see the uninitiated (to SIG) gun enthusiast looking at the P250's specs, finding them a little less aggressive than the GLOCK's, but seeing the advantage in interchangeable grips and frame. For a new gun enthusiast who refuses to drink the SIG classic Kool-Aid, I can see the appeal of the P250. The question is, is the P250 as accurate as a classic SIG? Is it as durable as a GLOCK? Is the trigger as smooth as the SP2022 out of the box? If the P250 can be competitive in these measures, I think there's a viable market for it, and it is most likely to keep SIG competitive with GLOCK. So, I think the P250 has real potential. Of course, the execution of the P250 product line up to this point has been disastrous, but if they could just improve execution from here on out, I don't see any reason the P250 can't be successful. Until SIG does improve the P250 product, though, I'll continue lusting after P228s and SP2022s. |
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This could also be a big convenience for someone living in a state that makes it hard to buy/sell guns (with state transaction fees, limits on purchase frequency, etc.). A P250 owner can register one gun, and have multiple frame, grip, and caliber options. Too bad the P250 is not approved in two states in particular - another product line execution issue. |
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posted by sundo,
Given the size of the hammer box and its current design I would say the P250 has a good chance of only being a DAO pistol with no other variants. DA/SA would add a bit of size and more parts and may not be possible without using a different hammer box. I have spoken with a few people at Sig's C/S dept who claimed a DA/SA P250 was not even in the works....but they are not the best source for up to date Sig info in my opinion. I dont hate the P250 but fail to see how a simplified DAO pistol with a long as hell trigger pull and no short reset is a huge technological advancement. Yeah it has potential but Sig seems to be wasting time and effort on silly projects like the P238 rather than trying to improve upon a very good idea. Without a DA/SA, DAK, or short trigger reset variant I think the P250 is missing a good portion of the Sig buying population as well as giving the competition an edge....especially for LE contracts. ~~~GO COLTS~~~ |
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Border Patrol carry .40 cal HK's, USPc and P2000's, not SP2022's. That said, Sig can keep the 250, I love the SigPro's.
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Thanks for the advice as always My choice...2022 will let you know..I bought a p226 Equinox about 6 months ago and I just saw a mention of frequency limit on purchasing handguns in some states. I'm in the peoples republic of California as far as you know is there a limit or frequency on purchase??
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I thought they carried Beretta 96's as well. Use thumb-size bullets to create fist-size holes. |
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I can say that my P250c .40 is very accurate, reliable through 500 rnds, and the trigger is very smooth and light. It is long and that is a complaint of mine as well. That said, I also have a 2022 and I like it alot better than the P250. "That which depends on me, I can do; that which depends on the enemy cannot be certain." Mei Yao-ch'en, The Art of War |
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Nope, the 96 was their issue gun but it has long since been replaced with the HK. There may be a few guys who got to keep their Berettas, but every BP Agent I have seen in the last few years has carried the HK. I'm sure there are a few guys on this board who can give you a more definative answer than me. |
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One handgun per 30 days in Commiefornia. .................................................................................................................. A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly. But the traitor moves among those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the galleys, heard in the very hall of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor - he speaks in the accents familiar to his victims, and wears their face and their garment, and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation - he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city - he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared. ∑ Cicero, 42 B.C. |
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Having shot them both..........the only polymer SiG I own is an SP2022.
 P22, P220 (JJ), P226 (KA), P228 (KH), SP2022 (30Apr08), P232 (AF) |
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I've never shot a 2022 so I can't offer anything by way of comparison, but I have a 250 and like it. Yeah the trigger is long, but so is a DAO revolver. It is long but smooth and light.....and I have adapted to it. I think it is as accurate as anything else I have and it's 100% reliable so far (about 300-400 rounds).
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Unless it's a PPT, which aren't governed by the 30-day rule, if I recall correctly. Yep, found it: http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/pubfaqs.php#22 "Handgun transactions related to law enforcement, private party transfers, returns to owners, and certain other specific circumstances are exempt from the one-handgun-per-30-day limit." |
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"Conventional wisdom", at least on this site, is 250 = sh_t, 2022 is god. Just kidding,....sort of. I wish I had the extra $ to get a 2022, but I am very happy with my 250 9mm. Don't be afraid of getting a 250 as long as you like the design. It's a great gun.
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