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Brought home a rescue the other day - gen 2.5 G27. Some asshat had milled the lower for one of those safeties - which I immediately removed. Then a complete detail stripping, with cleaning, a couple drops of oil, and a light film of grease on the metal frame rails and the bottom of the slide. Then a new RSA, and a smooth trigger with trigger bar; presto, solid shooter grade G27.

Midway had ETS mags on sale, so I figured I'd get one with my other parts to round out the order. Fantastic results so far, but only 150 through it as of now. I would not hesitate to get another (or six) Cool

I think a nice clean gen4 G22 police trade in with nights would be a good compliment to this gun, so that's what I'm keeping an eye out for now.
 
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The G-26 with 15 round magazine and x-grip has the perfect grip shape to me. I wish they made the g-19 this shape.

I wonder if one of the glock choppers could get it close.


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Posts: 5215 | Location: BPensacola, Florida | Registered: September 28, 2009Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I may actually thin my Glock herd a bit. I have an excess of G17 pistols, and the G34 MOS has lost its allure, now that I have a G19 MOS. This does not mean I am finished buying Glocks, just that I have settled upon G19-sized weapons as the sweet spot, and may add a G30S for upcoming travel to "occupied" states.

My skinny fingers actually like the Gen4 G19 finger groove spacing, and I like the way that a G19-length pistol clears leather with some high-riding holsters, compared to longer Glocks. This includes the Safariland 6360, mandated as my duty holster; duty pants have a higher waist band than most pants.


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The 19M and 17M models should be making their way to us this summer according to The Firearm Blog. No finger grooves...
 
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The 19M and 17M models should be making their way to us this summer according to The Firearm Blog. No finger grooves...


Full M models? Or Gen 4 with no finger grooves and front serrations? Glock spends more time on changing internals that work, than externals that people are not too crazy about.


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Posts: 5215 | Location: BPensacola, Florida | Registered: September 28, 2009Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Full M models? Or Gen 4 with no finger grooves and front serrations? Glock spends more time on changing internals that work, than externals that people are not too crazy about.


Glock internals have remained nearly unchanged in 30 years. Subtle improvements or refinements have been made. The changes in the generations of Glocks have primarily been external.

Given that the brand continues to be one of the most ubiquitous and most sold brands of handgun in the world, as well as the most widely carried and used, maybe it isn't about what people are "crazy about."

There are those who say "I'd buy one if it didn't have finger grooves." Fair enough...but there aren't enough of those to make it a major issue, else economics may have dictated a change back to the Gen 2 style long ago.

Personally, I don't customize the grips or make big changes; I adapt and learn to shoot the handgun. I've made minor changes to mine, sight upgrades or selections of the OEM offerings (swapping smooth trigger for serrated, but with Glock parts)...but I'd like to be able to pick up any Glock and fire instead of a one-off abortion that I tried to customize for myself.

No, my hand wasn't used to make the mould for the finger grooves; it's a standard feature that I have to adapt to, and I do. I'm far more concerned that the pistol is reliable and that I can put the rounds where they need to go, than whether the finger grooves are there or whether it's been custom molded to my fingers. I'll adapt, like most pistols. I wasn't "crazy" about the flat front strap on the P239 when I first got one, but I quickly adapted. After all, the pistol wasn't changing, so I needed to, and I carried it daily for several years. Turns out that it's a shooter issue.

For those who aren't "crazy" enough to buy a Glock with finger grooves, I'll probably take up their position on the sales numbers at least a few more times and add to a growing large number of Glocks. I'm not "crazy" about them, but I buy them because they work really well and because I adapt to them. They don't adapt to me. Doesn't bother me a bit so long as it goes bang and the bullet goes where it's supposed to.

Not too concerned about the color, either.
 
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The 19M and 17M models should be making their way to us this summer according to The Firearm Blog. No finger grooves...


That's not even close to what they said in the article on the 17M that TFB posted today. See for yourself at http://www.thefirearmblog.com/...017/04/22/glock-17m/

Quotes from the article include:

"At the top of my (and many others) list of releases is the the elusive Glock Generation 5 and/or ‘M’ models that may or may not make an appearance sometime this year."

And

"Again, at this point we have no idea if the ‘M’ series will make it into public hands or if a separate ‘Generation 5’ series will debut sometime in the future."


Where in there does TFB say anything like "17Ms and 19Ms will be available to the public this summer"?
 
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Originally posted by rat2306:
The 19M and 17M models should be making their way to us this summer according to The Firearm Blog. No finger grooves...


That's not even close to what they said in the article on the 17M that TFB posted today. See for yourself at http://www.thefirearmblog.com/...017/04/22/glock-17m/

Quotes from the article include:

"At the top of my (and many others) list of releases is the the elusive Glock Generation 5 and/or ‘M’ models that may or may not make an appearance sometime this year."

And

"Again, at this point we have no idea if the ‘M’ series will make it into public hands or if a separate ‘Generation 5’ series will debut sometime in the future."


Where in there does TFB say anything like "17Ms and 19Ms will be available to the public this summer"?


Thanks, Rogue! Sorry guys, my bust. I was thinking the April 7 post there was for the M models, but it referenced the "C"s we may have talked about with the front and rear slide grooves. Wishful thinking on my part.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/...ock-models-g19c-g24/

I read yesterday's post Rogue mentioned too. Still hopeful they announce something soon as mentioned in the article perhaps at the NRA meeting and show.
 
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Full M models? Or Gen 4 with no finger grooves and front serrations? Glock spends more time on changing internals that work, than externals that people are not too crazy about.


Glock internals have remained nearly unchanged in 30 years. Subtle improvements or refinements have been made. The changes in the generations of Glocks have primarily been external.

Given that the brand continues to be one of the most ubiquitous and most sold brands of handgun in the world, as well as the most widely carried and used, maybe it isn't about what people are "crazy about."

There are those who say "I'd buy one if it didn't have finger grooves." Fair enough...but there aren't enough of those to make it a major issue, else economics may have dictated a change back to the Gen 2 style long ago.

Personally, I don't customize the grips or make big changes; I adapt and learn to shoot the handgun. I've made minor changes to mine, sight upgrades or selections of the OEM offerings (swapping smooth trigger for serrated, but with Glock parts)...but I'd like to be able to pick up any Glock and fire instead of a one-off abortion that I tried to customize for myself.

No, my hand wasn't used to make the mould for the finger grooves; it's a standard feature that I have to adapt to, and I do. I'm far more concerned that the pistol is reliable and that I can put the rounds where they need to go, than whether the finger grooves are there or whether it's been custom molded to my fingers. I'll adapt, like most pistols. I wasn't "crazy" about the flat front strap on the P239 when I first got one, but I quickly adapted. After all, the pistol wasn't changing, so I needed to, and I carried it daily for several years. Turns out that it's a shooter issue.

For those who aren't "crazy" enough to buy a Glock with finger grooves, I'll probably take up their position on the sales numbers at least a few more times and add to a growing large number of Glocks. I'm not "crazy" about them, but I buy them because they work really well and because I adapt to them. They don't adapt to me. Doesn't bother me a bit so long as it goes bang and the bullet goes where it's supposed to.

Not too concerned about the color, either.


He said "ubiquitous".

I'm saying when the GEN 4 came out, the internals were changed that offered no real improvements over the gen 3. As a matter of fact many still prefer gen 3 trigger feel. Apparently the M models changed internals once again and had to be sent back almost immediately. Sounds like a way to become less "ubiquitous" to me.


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So I've put my 229 up for sale in anticipation of purchasing a Glock 19. I've really fallen in love with my 43 and it just makes sense for me to go that route. I've also become increasingly annoyed at how I just can't seem to change my grip and stop holding the slide release on the Sig. so the question is do I go with an MOS or standard model. I'd like to try out a dot on a handgun just not sure when. The dealer who I use has the MOS for only $50 more which makes it a no brainer IMO. However the question is a miller slide better than an MOS generic type system.
 
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So I've put my 229 up for sale in anticipation of purchasing a Glock 19. I've really fallen in love with my 43 and it just makes sense for me to go that route. I've also become increasingly annoyed at how I just can't seem to change my grip and stop holding the slide release on the Sig. so the question is do I go with an MOS or standard model. I'd like to try out a dot on a handgun just not sure when. The dealer who I use has the MOS for only $50 more which makes it a no brainer IMO. However the question is a miller slide better than an MOS generic type system.

Well you can look at the MOS as giving you options when it comes to choosing a reflex sight, both initially and later on if the first choice didn't meet expectations. With the aftermarket milled solution you're probably picking a sight and going forward will be tied to it or at least its brand, assuming that various sibling models share the same mounting points and overall size.
 
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So I've put my 229 up for sale in anticipation of purchasing a Glock 19. I've really fallen in love with my 43 and it just makes sense for me to go that route. I've also become increasingly annoyed at how I just can't seem to change my grip and stop holding the slide release on the Sig. so the question is do I go with an MOS or standard model. I'd like to try out a dot on a handgun just not sure when. The dealer who I use has the MOS for only $50 more which makes it a no brainer IMO. However the question is a miller slide better than an MOS generic type system.


Before committing to the G19 look at the G17. I ended up with a 43, two 19's and a 17. I usually shoot the 17 and the 43; but rarely the 19's.
 
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So I've put my 229 up for sale in anticipation of purchasing a Glock 19. I've really fallen in love with my 43 and it just makes sense for me to go that route. I've also become increasingly annoyed at how I just can't seem to change my grip and stop holding the slide release on the Sig. so the question is do I go with an MOS or standard model. I'd like to try out a dot on a handgun just not sure when. The dealer who I use has the MOS for only $50 more which makes it a no brainer IMO. However the question is a miller slide better than an MOS generic type system.

Well you can look at the MOS as giving you options when it comes to choosing a reflex sight, both initially and later on if the first choice didn't meet expectations. With the aftermarket milled solution you're probably picking a sight and going forward will be tied to it or at least its brand, assuming that various sibling models share the same mounting points and overall size.


I get the advantage of the MOS allowing multiple options, however is there an advantage of going Milled. The only other thing I hear is it sits slightly lower.
 
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I guess I went down another path today. 105 rounds through it and its a keeper! Glock 30SF



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Got my G19Gen4 with my GSSF coupon today. Those savings alone make the lifetime GSSF membership worth it. Even if I never won anything at a match, the membership would pay for itself many times over.
 
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I finally gave in to the dark side yesterday. I bought a new Glock 19 gen 4. The guy at the shop said it was a "special" one. One of a kind. Way better than all the other Glock 19's they make. Big Grin

I think I'm gonna like it and will probably get a 17 later.
 
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It's twue, it's twue!

Just ordered a 17 Gen 4.

In my defense, it's not for me, it's a graduation present for my grandson.

I fondled a P225 while waiting tho, so it's all good... Big Grin
 
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