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Sig 228 DAO is it worth it to add a decocker.

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February 18, 2021, 05:51 PM
max628
Sig 228 DAO is it worth it to add a decocker.
I picked up a used 228 DAO a few years ago for a very good price. I ran a few rounds through it cleaned it and put it in the safe. I bring it out from time to time and run a few rounds through it and back in the safe it goes, I was wondering if it would be worth converting it away from the DA0 and how hard it would be to do. Any thoughts would be appreciated. PS: I really like to have a decocker, cant say why actually.
February 18, 2021, 06:15 PM
Strambo
Only worth it if you really want to be able to shoot it single action...




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February 18, 2021, 06:22 PM
sigfreund
To convert to double action/single action, you would need the decocker assembly (lever, bearing, spring) and a DA/SA hammer.




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February 18, 2021, 06:30 PM
92fstech
If you decide to convert it, I'd recommend you consider the SRT kit as well. The short reset helps you get the most out of the DA/SA trigger on the P-series. I love them...have one in each of mine.
February 18, 2021, 06:45 PM
blueinterceptor
Depends on what you’re looking for. Two different trigger pulls.
February 18, 2021, 06:46 PM
gearhounds
If you are more comfortable with a DA/SA gun then it is well worth converting.




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February 18, 2021, 08:15 PM
220-9er
I only do something like that if I really want it and don't really worry about the value or cost part. I don't look at a gun as any sort of investment. Not to say you don't get lucky by accident at times.
Also look at the cost of buying one already in that configuration unless that particular gun has some sentimental value to you.


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February 19, 2021, 01:39 AM
bigguy
I think there is value in having a pistol with a simple manual of arms available.

In case of injury to your strong hand there are less controls to manipulate with the weak hand.

In case of emergency that same pistol could be used to arm a trusted person more familiar with a revolver.

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February 19, 2021, 01:58 AM
rock185
Not exactly inexpensive to do, but to me it would be worth it. Whether DA/SA, or single action only like 1911s etc., having SA capability is of value to me in a semi-automatic pistol. I've owned traditional DA/SA P series SIGs since the '80s, and wish the SRT 92fstech mentioned had been standard on SIGs from the first.

Matrix has a conversion kit, and I'd imagine Top Gun Supply also has either the kit, or the parts needed available separately to do the conversion.


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February 19, 2021, 03:15 AM
CD228
Yes, it's worth it. Many years ago I purchased a DAO 228. The DAO trigger pull on the SIG was noticeably heavier than my S&W 3913 and interestingly my S&W 686 revolver. Initially I installed a SIG Short trigger on it and it made the trigger pull more managable.

I had the DAO swapped to a DA/SA and noticed a significant improvement in the trigger, to the point that I removed the short trigger and replaced it with a standard trigger.

I acknowledge that trigger pull preferences are very personal and also vary by pistol so YMV.

Another TTP to improve DA trigger pull I have heard is to use a 19 pound hammer spring instead of the stock 20+ pounder. I recently installed one in a SIG 229 ICW a Gray Guns SRT kit. It definately changed the feel of the trigger pull, but my trigger pull gauge didn't show a difference (could be bad gauge). I don't have enough trigger time on the new configuration to vouch for the 19lb spring personally, but I trust Bruce Gray completely.
February 19, 2021, 05:04 AM
esh21167
Just keep parts to go back to original configuration.
February 19, 2021, 08:10 AM
SMG6702
I just converted my 239 it's easy to do I also just installed the SRT kit in my 228 it's great I would do both . Just my 2 cents
February 20, 2021, 07:32 PM
av8erman
I bought a police trade-in P228 a few years back that was DAO. I originally wanted to keep it that way as a training gun to help practice double action shots....got tired of that and converted it to DA/SA after 2 months.

It was a simple operation after getting the Sig Armorer DVD from Top Gun Supply.
February 21, 2021, 07:16 AM
max628
Thanks, for the reply's yall given me some good info as usual.
February 21, 2021, 11:00 PM
stiab
quote:
Originally posted by sigfreund:
To convert to double action/single action, you would need the decocker assembly (lever, bearing, spring) and a DA/SA hammer.

And maybe the left grip panel as well. On some Sig FACTORY DAO's, the left panel was not cut out inside for the decock lever. The outside cutout was there, but not on the inside. There was a thread on this subject here years ago, and some doubted this who had never seen a factory DAO, but I posted pictures to clear it up.


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February 22, 2021, 07:09 AM
sigfreund
quote:
Originally posted by stiab:
I posted pictures to clear it up.


Do you still have the photos? I don’t recall ever seeing anything like that and I’ve always had a special interest in DAO models.

Some time after the DAK trigger system was introduced SIG offered a “slim” grip set for the DAK P229, and that would have probably fit the P228 as far as I know. The left side panel was odd in that at first glance it appeared to have the decocker cuts, but there wasn’t room under the panel for the decocker.

I have a set myself, but it was available for only a short time and I never saw the grip except for the set I ordered. It’s within the realm of possibility that a DAO P228 might have been fitted with the DAK P229 slim grip panels, but extremely unlikely.

I would be curious to know if your photos are of the same type of grip.




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March 03, 2021, 08:32 PM
stiab
quote:
Originally posted by sigfreund:
quote:
Originally posted by stiab:
I posted pictures to clear it up.


Do you still have the photos? I don’t recall ever seeing anything like that and I’ve always had a special interest in DAO models.

Some time after the DAK trigger system was introduced SIG offered a “slim” grip set for the DAK P229, and that would have probably fit the P228 as far as I know. The left side panel was odd in that at first glance it appeared to have the decocker cuts, but there wasn’t room under the panel for the decocker.

I have a set myself, but it was available for only a short time and I never saw the grip except for the set I ordered. It’s within the realm of possibility that a DAO P228 might have been fitted with the DAK P229 slim grip panels, but extremely unlikely.

I would be curious to know if your photos are of the same type of grip.

Sorry for the delay in getting back to this thread, I've been traveling. Will look for the pics, they are several years old. Someone on the forum wanted to buy those grips form me after I posted pics, and offered to pay plus give me a set of stand ones with the inside cutout. I declined, but later did sell the gun (and grips) to someone on this forum in the classifieds. If you had tried to use those grips on a DA/SA model, when you tightened them down it would have put the decocker in such a bind it would not have worked.


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March 05, 2021, 09:38 PM
stiab
Well, I have found those pictures, but in the meantime my pic hosting sight Picturetrail has closed, so I have no way of putting them on here. Same reason my avatar of many years has disappeared. I could email them to someone, if interested.


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March 05, 2021, 09:41 PM
sigfreund
I would be interested, if you please. My email address is in my profile.




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March 06, 2021, 07:30 AM
stiab
quote:
Originally posted by sigfreund:
I would be interested, if you please. My email address is in my profile.

Pictures sent, feel free to post them here if you desire.


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