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I skip using the slide stop to release the slide on all my semi-auto pistols, and "slingshot' the slide instead.


+1. Then engage safety and top off the mag if it is to be carried.





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That's a great picture Big Grin
 
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I've never used the slidestop to release the slide onto a round or whenever. I never use it because I've heard that over time if you use the button it will round off that notch on the slide and eventually ruin a slide because it won't catch anymore.
 
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That's great. Two guide rods? Big Grin


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That's great. Two guide rods? Big Grin

Where? In the barrel? Naaa, I wanted to see if I could chamber a .30-30 Winchester in the barrel. I think I need more bullet set-back. What do you think? And after removing all the pins and springy things, I tried installing the short trigger but had a problem there too. It keeps falling out.


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i noticed that no one has mentioned this yet, so maybe folks don't do it anymore.

i was taught to hold the trigger back when releasing the slide to protect the action/trigger parts...am i reaching too far into the past?


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LOL, that reminds me of a Matt Helm movie. He had a backwards shooting pistol that would fire 5 seconds after the trigger was pulled. BTW, for those too young, they were spoofs of the James bond movies that starred Dean Martin.
 
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I've never used the slidestop to release the slide onto a round or whenever. I never use it because I've heard that over time if you use the button it will round off that notch on the slide and eventually ruin a slide because it won't catch anymore.

I always use the slide stop and have never heard of or seen the notch on a slide wear out.


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I skip using the slide stop to release the slide on all my semi-auto pistols, and "slingshot' the slide instead.


plus decock right-a-way.. anyways. the first shot i ALWAYS shoot double action. that's the way i switch to single action. with my soon arriving sw686 i guess it'll be the other way around Smile or something like that, i don't know yet...


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I skip using the slide stop to release the slide on all my semi-auto pistols, and "slingshot' the slide instead.
So do I, after eight instructors in three pistol training classes insist that the slingshot technique is the preferred method. The only time I touch the slide catch lever is to lock the slide back.


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Having had to write stuff like that for lesson plans, I know it sounds moronic, but they are written with the assumption that the reader knows absolutely nothing about the subject. Instructors know by hard experience that you can't assume that whoever is reading the stuff knows things like: "The rounded component of the cartridge, referred to as the "bullet," is place in the magazine so that when the magazine is inserted into the magazine well of the pistol, the bullet is facing forward; i.e. in the same direction as the muzzle."

I've seen plenty of people put bullets in a magazine backwards.
Kinda' a clue that you are dealing with a newb. Big Grin
How does that work? Seems to me the bullets would fall out.





Cartridges seem to stay in the slide, and work better when the firing pin hits the primer.





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Hey, a *customized* 226! Nice! Who's the gunsmith? Cool
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Well, we "gave them democracy"... not unlike giving a monkey a loaded gun.

 
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i noticed that no one has mentioned this yet, so maybe folks don't do it anymore.

i was taught to hold the trigger back when releasing the slide to protect the action/trigger parts...am i reaching too far into the past?


That always gave me the willies. I know, I know, it's no different a mechanical action than when the gun cycles normally.

My understanding is that only needs to be done on finely tuned custom triggers so as not to screw up the smith's work.


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I am so stealing that picture for my care and maintenance lesson plan:

"Upon completion of reassembly and prior to performing function checks, refer to the following photo:

If your assembled pistol resembles the pistol in said photo, return it to the workspace with the muzzle oriented towards the red armored bullet stop, lay pistol on bench and leave the room, ensuring that the door locks behind you. Proceed to the parking lot, and after conducting a safety and equipment check of your vehicle and ensuring that any backing area is clear of pedestrians, other vehicles or other extraneous objects, leave the agency parking lot and drive to _______________ Street. Upon arrival, place the vehicle in "Park" and set the emergency brake. While leaving the vehicle, make certain that no sensitive law enforcement equipment is unsecured, and that no sensitive information is visible to an unauthorized person looking into the car, such as incident reports or MDT screens, and that all doors and windows are secured.

Then enter the building and advise the receptionist that you would like to apply for a lateral transfer to the Parks and Recreation Department, preferably a position which does not involve the use of power equipment or bladed tools."
 
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I am so stealing that picture for my care and maintenance lesson plan:

"Upon completion of reassembly and prior to performing function checks, refer to the following photo:

If your assembled pistol resembles the pistol in said photo, return it to the workspace with the muzzle oriented towards the red armored bullet stop, lay pistol on bench and leave the room, ensuring that the door locks behind you. Proceed to the parking lot, and after conducting a safety and equipment check of your vehicle and ensuring that any backing area is clear of pedestrians, other vehicles or other extraneous objects, leave the agency parking lot and drive to _______________ Street. Upon arrival, place the vehicle in "Park" and set the emergency brake. While leaving the vehicle, make certain that no sensitive law enforcement equipment is unsecured, and that no sensitive information is visible to an unauthorized person looking into the car, such as incident reports or MDT screens, and that all doors and windows are secured.

Then enter the building and advise the receptionist that you would like to apply for a lateral transfer to the Parks and Recreation Department, preferably a position which does not involve the use of power equipment or bladed tools."


ROTFL!!!

Now that's what I call good, instructional writing ...

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I think that there 226 may be misassembled. Don't worry about it, it is a simple mistake to make and you wouldn't catch it if you weren't an experienced mall ninja like myself.


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I've never used the slidestop to release the slide onto a round or whenever. I never use it because I've heard that over time if you use the button it will round off that notch on the slide and eventually ruin a slide because it won't catch anymore.


So do you have any source, anywhere, with pictures, to back up this third hand (at best) assumption on your part?
 
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I've never used the slidestop to release the slide onto a round or whenever. I never use it because I've heard that over time if you use the button it will round off that notch on the slide and eventually ruin a slide because it won't catch anymore.


Did you ever look at a slide stop and wonder "Why is the thumb rest in a position I would have to press down instead of up?" Perhaps you should think about why that is....

Its obvious that the slide stop is designed to hold the slide in a fixed point when engaged, and that that fixed point is the proper position that, when released, will allow the slide to move forward with enough energy to strip a round from the magazine and chamber properly.
 
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The loading procedure is OK, but you generally get better round seating (more like what happens during normal cycling) if you retract the slide fully from the closed position and then release it to chamber a round.

Also, you still need to "top off" the feeder mag (it has lost one round to chambering). I recommend performing a tac-load immediately after chambering, then securing the pistol in a holster/case etc. Then you can place a top-off round in the partially depleted mag in safety. You also get to practice vital tac-load skills everytime you load your pistol.
 
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I've never used the slidestop to release the slide onto a round or whenever. I never use it because I've heard that over time if you use the button it will round off that notch on the slide and eventually ruin a slide because it won't catch anymore.


So do you have any source, anywhere, with pictures, to back up this third hand (at best) assumption on your part?

I agree with SMS2884 and another important point that is taught by most firearms instructors is that by using the slingshot technique, not only do you pick up an additional amount of slide travel, but the process further reinforces muscle memory which reduces reliance on fumbling for the realtively small slide catch lever in a critical situation.

To each his own.


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