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Originally posted by raydog1:


Well, things may be looking up for you getting it fixed a 2nd time. Mine works perfectly now. I ran about 150 rounds through it.

American Eagle 115 - the cheap stuff
Blazer Brass 115 - some good stuff
Black Hills +P JHP 124 - the best stuff (my carry round)

Not a single hiccup. I'm not sure, but it appears that they made the slide stop cuts on the slide a little deeper. The slide lock lever just looks like it sits higher than it did before. And it still hits like a dream. I just threw up a couple 5 inch Caldwell orange peel targets and shot ragged holes. Looked kinda cool next to the man-sized targets in the neighboring lanes.

That is great news. It is cool to just step up and shoot the 250 like a pro. It really is the most natural handgun I have ever shot with respect to accuracy and consistency shot to shot.

I have a new RMA from Sig and will be sending the gun back tomorrow. The person I have been working with over there, Ken is is very helpful. He did indicate that I seem to be the only one that is having problems with the 250.

I will stay optimistic and hope for the best. Maybe the second time will be a charm.

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Originally posted by TestPilot:


I can see the difficulty of engineering the P250. One significant thing as that the ejector is integrated to the trigger group frame. That means one ejector position has to work for all calibers. Each caliber will require a unique position for the top round of the magazine for optimal feeding, but that ejector position will put a limitation on how much adjustment can be made.

I'm just hoping SIG actually did test this with ammunition that is meant to be used in this pistol (i.e. Hollow Point) in all 3 calibers before they claimed it can be converted.

That is my concern as well. I know there was a long delay between the European P250 9mm and the American P250. Now, there seems to be a long delay between the P250 9mm and the larger calibers. I wonder if they are having problems making it work in all calibers with many different types of ammo.

Watchman, all but the 45 should be running the same price, according to pricer. Due to MAP, can't quote exact price here. Would needd to call or email for exact quote!

250 is back from Sig. The slide release was adjusted. More like it was filed square instead of the mild ramp that was there before. It stays back now 9 times out of 10 (when inserting a mag). I think I will take a file to the business edge of the slide release lever. The slide release is bumpy, like it was stamped out and that left a rough/bumpy edge. This may fix it entirely.

Including the Turkey Day it was 7days door to door and arrived nice as it was when I shipped it out.

My .40 Caliber Conversion Kit arrived today!!! Hard to believe, but true (Thanks Tom at Top Gun Supply for remembering me in my time of need!) After purchasing the 9mm Compact in March, the .40 caliber high cap magazines in May (when I was still a LEO) and placing my order with Sig in October, I received a notice from Tom that Top Gun actually had just gotten two .40 caliber kits in stock this week. He was gracious enough to sell me one w/o the high cap magazine (I can't legally purchase them in CA, now that I'm retired) and I received the kit today.

Examining the kit, I noticed several things about the .40 which differed from my 9mm Compact. First, Sig provided a new "improved" takedown lever. Second, the kit's recoil spring system was different from my 9mm version, in that the .40 came with a standard (non-captive) spring and a hollow, metal guide rod. My 9mm came with a captive system, utilizing a polymer guide rod and I'd replaced this with a solid stainless steel (captive) system made by Steve Bedair. I like the additional weight up front with the Bedair SS rod and plan on ordering one for my .40 caliber system as soon as it's available. FYI: According to Sig, the .40 caliber Compact P250 utilizes the same recoil spring as the .40/.357 Sig P229.

I drove to the local range within a couple hours of receiving the kit and swapping out the slide, barrel, spring/guide rod and installing the new take down lever. I fired 100 rounds of WW "White Box" 165 grain SWCs (no failures), 100 rounds of 165 grain Speer "Gold Dots" and about 50 rounds of 165 grain Federal HST JHPs. Oddly enough, I had three failure to feeds with the Gold Dots all using the same magazine loaded with the (2) problem rounds.

My first FTF came after firing four rounds from a fully loaded pistol (13+1). I removed the magazine, topped it off, racked a round into the chamber, topped it off again and fired until (the same "problem") cartridge failed to feed, hanging up as before on the bottom of the ramp. I examined the cartridge more closely, didn't see any obvious indicators of the problem and decided to try it one more time. I took the round out, loaded a couple more in the magazine, placed the problem round in again and fully loaded the pistol/magazine. This time the "problem" cartridge fed fired and ejected, but another round failed to feed, before the magazine was emptied at the target. Again, I removed the magazine, topped it off, chambered a round and topped off the magazine. This time, the round fed fired and ejected properly, as did the other rounds.

I fired an additional 125-140 rounds (Gold Dots and HSTs) w/o incident. The kit shot to point of aim, with the exception of just two cartridges (out of 250) every round fed, fired and ejected w/o incident and the slide locked open after each last shot. The pistol wasn't cleaned until the firing session was completed.

Overall, I'm pleased enough with the pistol's performance to start carrying it. The recoil was very manageable and can only guess that the problem with the two cartridges was associated with either out of spec rounds or possibly operator error (limp wrist?). Although I'd have preferred a standard stainless slide, the Nitron version was the first which became available and I'm glad I got it.

Now the wait for the Subcompact .40 begins!

pulicords,
You are brave to carry a pistol that has issues. My P250 is the only pistol I have ever had an issue with. I just don't feel confident in carrying it. Congratulations on the conversion kit score!

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Originally posted by xd45man:
pulicords,
You are brave to carry a pistol that has issues. My P250 is the only pistol I have ever had an issue with. I just don't feel confident in carrying it. Congratulations on the conversion kit score!

+1. Out of just 250 rounds, 3 FTF's is not what I consider good odds. Especially with your self defense rounds.

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Originally posted by Lepoer: Out of just 250 rounds, 3 FTF's is not what I consider good odds. Especially with your self defense rounds.

Just to clarify, the problems involved two individual cartridges out of more than 250. Both of those rounds were old duty rounds, purchased in bulk boxes marked, "For training purposes only." Based upon the overall performance, I believe the issue was the two cartridges in question.

IMO, if one isn't prepared to deal with the possibility of an equipment failure (in less than 1% of all rounds fired), it's a training issue. All the new ammunition fired and the rest of the old, "practice" ammo worked fine.

I'm new to gun ownership and my P250 is my first gun; I just bought it on Monday and will head to the range this weekend to fire it. I'm a lefty, and there aren't as many good choices for us out there as there are for righties. Anyway. I handled a 9mm P250 at a local shop and liked it, but it wasn't for sale (waiting list). I did find another shop that had the .40 in stock, and bought that. I was able to reverse the mag release for left-handed use with no trouble.

After seeing reports of the slide releasing when a magazine is inserted, I tried reproducing this myself when inserting a mag, and by hitting the bottom of the magazine with my hand, as another poster reported doing. Either I'm not hitting it as hard (entirely possible -- men have more strength) or my gun, which is marked October 2008 on one of the stickers on the case, doesn't have the slide-releasing issue. I'm hoping that this is something that was fixed at the factory at some point.

I am picking up a small grip for it ($52 shipped, not bad) and hopefully it will make it a little easier for my small hands to easily settle with my thumb over the mag release. I don't know yet that I need the short trigger, though.

Looking forward to the subcompact 9mm conversion kits... I'm thinking two-tone.

By the way...

the Sig website was incorrect.
They list the full size as with a Mag capacity of 17 rounds for 9mm.
They have fixed that.

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Originally posted by pulicords:

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Originally posted by Lepoer: Out of just 250 rounds, 3 FTF's is not what I consider good odds. Especially with your self defense rounds.

Just to clarify, the problems involved two individual cartridges out of more than 250. Both of those rounds were old duty rounds, purchased in bulk boxes marked, "For training purposes only." Based upon the overall performance, I believe the issue was the two cartridges in question.

IMO, if one isn't prepared to deal with the possibility of an equipment failure (in less than 1% of all rounds fired), it's a training issue. All the new ammunition fired and the rest of the old, "practice" ammo worked fine.

I couldn't agree more on the equipment failure training. Thanks for the clarification and I hope that 250 keeps running like a champ.

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By the way...

the Sig website was incorrect.
They list the full size as with a Mag capacity of 17 rounds for 9mm.
They have fixed that.

I just looked and their Web site and it lists the full sized P250 mags as holding:
* 9mm 20 Rounds
* .357 SIG 17 Rounds
* .40 S&W 17 Rounds

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Originally posted by Lepoer:


I couldn't agree more on the equipment failure training. Thanks for the clarification and I hope that 250 keeps running like a champ.

I must be a jerk and argue that this P250 is not running like a champ. To win the championship in my eyes, I need to see 500 flawless rounds. 4 of my 5 pistols have accomplished this.

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Originally posted by timr:
I'm also sending my P250 back due to the slide release issue. My serial is in the 8000s.

Wow! I shipped the pistol Monday and it was returned Friday. I've not been able to make the slide release by slamming in a magazine loaded or unloaded so the issue is apparently resolved.

Once I've been to the range I will report back results negative or positive.

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Originally posted by timr:

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Originally posted by timr:
I'm also sending my P250 back due to the slide release issue. My serial is in the 8000s.

Wow! I shipped the pistol Monday and it was returned Friday. I've not been able to make the slide release by slamming in a magazine loaded or unloaded so the issue is apparently resolved.

Once I've been to the range I will report back results negative or positive.

I hope Sig has the "fix" down to a science now. I do not want to have to send mine back a third time. Mine shipped back today. I will be anxious to hear good news from you. Good luck.

After Sig filed the slide to a sharp edge I still wasnt happy with the "slide release". I noticed when the slide is back the slide catch lever meets the notch at an angle. I used the same angle to sharpen the edge of the slide catch lever(just the left side since the right side doesnt engage at all).
Holds it open just fine now.

Sounds like they changed to for the 250 for the people that press the lever. Yes I am guilty of it too. Havnt had the problem with mine yet but if I do sounds like I will just be fixing it myself. I have heard of older 220s having similar problems after the button is well used. Guess it is the same thing.

After a year of reading everthing I could on the P250 and thanks to this forum, I bought my P250 Saturday and shot it Sunday. 350 rounds of 9mm. " Blazer, Rem UMC, Rem UMC HP and Win white box" No FTF, FTE no issues at all except,, when I broke it down to clean the Slide Catch Lever Spring flew across the room and I never found the little bugger..
Oh Well, I sent off a email to Sig because I found out that I am not the only person to experience this, Best reason to wait a year to buy something new.

The guy at the shop where I bought mine said that when he first swapped the slide release lever to the opposite side, he lost the tiny spring in his carpet and had to dig for it. I've lost innumerable other small items in my carpet, including the main landing gear for an Me-262 aircraft (STILL haven't found it) -- but at least I didn't lose that spring! Good luck getting a new one; hope it goes well, as knowing my luck it'll happen to me when I break the thing down to clean it.

sour--if sig can't help you on the spring--try ACE hardware for a teeny little spring--it need not be an exact fit to work--bring the "Firing module" with you to test the fit--no one will recognize it as a "gun"--good luck!! dmd