There is a 40 S&W P250 on Gunbroker.com

Appears to be legitimate and not a mistake.

Guess the labor day thing may be real

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Originally posted by MoReloader:
There is a 40 S&W P250 on Gunbroker.com

Appears to be legitimate and not a mistake.

Guess the labor day thing may be real

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Here's the link:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=108742765

John Davies
Spokane WA

Looks legit--guess .40 is finally here--dmd

I wonder what the magazine capacity is for the compact .40SW? Maybe I just found my bday present from me to me... :-)

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I sent the seller an e-mail asking if it was the compact grip frame and what the capacity is. I'll let you guys know.

If memory serves, didn't the release a SINGLE .40SW in two tone via the sweepstakes a while back?

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Originally posted by pjd17011:
I wonder what the magazine capacity is for the compact .40SW? Maybe I just found my bday present from me to me... :-)

Edited to Add:

I sent the seller an e-mail asking if it was the compact grip frame and what the capacity is. I'll let you guys know.

I heard back from him today and here is the info:

This is the compact grip frame. The capacity of the magazine is 13.
The 40S&W magazine also accepts the .357 sig cartrige. I currently have a
few extra .40/.357 mags in stock for the 250!

compact is 13 - .40/.357 15/16 9mm I wonder what the full size is gonna be??

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Originally posted by pjd17011:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by pjd17011:
I wonder what the magazine capacity is for the compact .40SW? Maybe I just found my bday present from me to me... :-)

Edited to Add:

I sent the seller an e-mail asking if it was the compact grip frame and what the capacity is. I'll let you guys know.

I heard back from him today and here is the info:

This is the compact grip frame. The capacity of the magazine is 13. The 40S&W magazine also accepts the .357 sig cartrige. I currently have a few extra .40/.357 mags in stock for the 250!

Confirm Compact will be 13 40/357, per specs and full size will be 17 in 40/357.

Hope ours are included in this first shipment?

Got the call from my local gun shop: my P250 two-tone in .40 arrived Tuesday!

Naturally, I was 150 miles away and unable to pick it up, but I'll rectify that tomorrow. Unfortunately my work schedule is jammed for tomorrow and Thursday, so I may not get to the range until Friday. I'll try for sooner, but either way I'll be sure to report back.

what state are you in?? (other than excited, of course) dmd

I really like the feel of the P250 in my hand and the trigger is very smooth w/ little stacking. It has a really long reset though. Any word on when the short trigger is coming out?

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Originally posted by dmd45:
what state are you in?? (other than excited, of course) dmd

Ha! I liked that. I'm in Connecticut. I picked up the P250 today. Bummed I couldn't shoot it right away. Dry fires well... although much more recoil than dry firing the 9mm, naturally...

Anyway, more once I hit the range.

Lots of rumors lately.
What is The Official Word? Has anyone shot something in the 250 group other than the 9mm compact?

Please post with pictures and range report.

BTW, most info on the Sig Products can be found here.

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Originally posted by motor:
Lots of rumors lately.
What is The Official Word? Has anyone shot something in the 250 group other than the 9mm compact?

It's no rumor; I actually physically possess a .40 P250 compact. Due to work today, there's no way I'll get to the range, but I'm going tomorrow.

As for pictures, here's one.

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Originally posted by nimue144:
It's no rumor; I actually physically possess a .40 P250 compact.

Any mention of availability from your vendor in .357 SIG?

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Originally posted by ScrappyJack:
Any mention of availability from your vendor in .357 SIG?

Sorry, nothing mentioned either way.


RANGE REPORT

Gun: P250 compact in .40 S&W, two-tone, medium frame

Ammo: 200 rounds evenly split between Federal Law Enforcement 155 Gr. and Remington Golden Saber 165 Gr.

The Good: The gun shoots like a dream. Extremely accurate. Excellent sight picture and natural POA; easy to reaquire the target after each shot, no matter the pace. Very bright night sights, also.

Comfortable in the hand, controls naturally placed and easy to operate. There was some commentary in one thread a while back that the mag release button was too sensitive, with the mag popping free unintentionally on occasion. When I shot the 9mm two months ago, this never happened, nor did it today with the .40. (I've only ever had that happen with a Kahr PM40.)

Buttery trigger with long pull and long reset, obviously--that's been the word from day one. I had no issues with short-stroking, be it on double-taps, triple-taps, or full mag dumps at top speed. I've shot revolvers a fair amount over the past few years, which may help.

The .40 was slightly snappy compared to the 9mm, which you'd expect. No different than a Glock 19 vs. 23, for example.

Best of all, given the amount of discussion on this issue: ZERO LIGHT PRIMER STRIKES.

The Bad: 11 out of 16 times, the slide released from lock on its own upon insertion of a fresh mag. I do not gently ease magazines in (although I did try that a dozen times today to test it, and the slide always stayed in lock until I released it). I slap them in firmly, as any good shooter would. I've never experienced this issue with any other pistol.

On only 3 of those instances did it actually chamber a round. 5 were incomplete feeds. The other 3 times the slide snapped forward completely, leaving me with an unexpectedly empty chamber.

In addition, I had 9 failures to feed after firing a shot. It didn't SEEM to be shooter-error, because A) I'm pretty well trained and don't limp-wrist, B) it doesn't happen to me with other weapons, and C) it didn't actually happen when I deliberately limp-wristed.

These issues happened with both types of ammo, from several different magazines, when shooting one-handed and two-handed, seemingly at random. I was using 5 mags--the one that came with the gun and 4 from Top Gun Supply.

Conclusion: Obviously this is troubling. I love shooting the P250, and dearly want to be able to trust it and make it my EDC. Until these issues are resolved, that can't happen. Since I only put 200 rounds through it, I plan on heading to the range again soon (possibly even tonight with my wife, but more likely Monday) and putting another couple hundred through. I doubt the problems will mysteriously disappear, but I may as well have one more shooting session before inevitably sending it back to Sig.

For what it's worth, the P250 in 9mm I shot a while back had none of these issues. That was at SigSauer Academy, so the gun was well broken-in by that point.

Good report, I have the 9mm P250c and have only shot about 70 rounds through it so far with zero problems. glad to here the 9mm you shot had no problems, but sorry to here that your personal .40 is having these issues. Hopefully I will get out to shoot mine next weekend and will be able to give some feedback on the trip.

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Originally posted by nimue144:
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I do not gently ease magazines in ...I slap them in firmly, as any good shooter would.
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I don't like the slide being released without me releasing it.

Anyway, I disagree with that. I don't "slam" or "slap" magazines in. With fully loaded magazines, espacially the CA 10 rounders, they might bounce right back out if I use that method in some occasion.

I guide the magazine in smoothly, then I squeeze the bottom of the magazine upwards. It may not look so cool and it's a bit slower, but that is the only method I know of that will ensure that the magazine catch actually engaged the magazine.

If it's not a speed reload, I'll even pull on the magazine to make sure it is locked in.

I tried the "slam" or "slap" method, thinking I may not have time to squeeze the mazagine upwards. It was during a formal pistol training course. I quickly learned that taking that extra fraction of a second to squeeze the magazine locked is less of a risk than firing a shot after reload and see the magazine drop from the magazine well. It did not matter if I slapped it hard to a degree that the heel of my hands was numb. That short instantaneous impulse did not always drive the full magazine upwards enough or allow the magazine catch enough time to spring out and engage the magazine.

I can honestly say that I do it the way I do not because it would embarass me less at a range, but because I actually believe the "slap" method is more likely to get me killed.

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Originally posted by TestPilot:
Anyway, I disagree with that. I don't "slam" or "slap" magazines in. With fully loaded magazines, espacially the CA 10 rounders, they might bounce right back out if I use that method in some occasion.

I guide the magazine in smoothly, then I squeeze the bottom of the magazine upwards. It may not look so cool and it's a bit slower, but that is the only method I know of that will ensure that the magazine catch actually engaged the magazine.

If it's not a speed reload, I'll even pull on the magazine to make sure it is locked in.

I tried the "slam" or "slap" method, thinking I may not have time to squeeze the mazagine upwards. It was during a formal pistol training course. I quickly learned that taking that extra fraction of a second to squeeze the magazine locked is less of a risk than firing a shot after reload and see the magazine drop from the magazine well. It did not matter if I slapped it hard to a degree that the heel of my hands was numb. That short instantaneous impulse did not always drive the full magazine upwards enough or allow the magazine catch enough time to spring out and engage the magazine.

I can honestly say that I do it the way I do not because it would embarass me less at a range, but because I actually believe the "slap" method is more likely to get me killed.

Hey, whatever works for you. Obviously my "as any good shooter would" comment was hyperbole. If you've done a good amount of training and have decided the method you described is most reliable/comfortable for you, by all means go with it.

That said, there's the subtle indication that you think I'm concerned with looking cool at the range. Trust me, I am so gorgeous that there's no need for anything like that; other shooters typically kneel before me when I enter. In seriousness, I don't train to look cool.

I wasn't referring to some sort of massive blow to the base of the magazine, nothing hand-numbing. "Slam" would be far too strong to describe it, which is why I said "slap". I'm not sure why you experienced "bounceback", but I literally cannot imagine how that could happen with what I am describing. It's a smooth, guided insertion, with enough force--and with the heel of the palm kept firmly in place momentarily at the end of the drive--to ensure that the mag catch does reliably engage.

If time allows, I also tug the mag to be sure it's seated. IF time allows. However, for self-defense purposes, I assume the need for a fast initial reload and train accordingly.

It's what was taught at each of the diverse formal handgun training courses I've attended. It's what I have thus used in my own training. I have no idea how many reloads I've done over the years, but I've never encountered any problems.

Regardless, as you said, the slide releasing on its own is an independant concern.

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Originally posted by nimue144:
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That said, there's the subtle indication that you think I'm concerned with looking cool at the range. Trust me, I am so gorgeous that there's no need for anything like that; other shooters typically kneel before me when I enter. In seriousness, I don't train to look cool.

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No, I don't looks is a factor when you select a self defense technique. It was not intended as a personal "jab" at you.

But, believe it or not, some people, even people who should know better, sometimes do. I was in the military, and it gets very irritating when I'm told to exaggerate some movements not because it was tactically or technically unsound, but because the movement did not look "sharp" or "high speed" enough because it lacked brisk jerky sharp motions. I had the same issue with this reloading issue with some people. The "hand numbingly" hard slap was mentioned because those people used to accuse me of not slapping hard snough when I told them their technique did not work.
So, that's the context behind my comments.

Can you describe exactly how the fail to feed on the P250 occured? Did the round get hung on the feed ramp or did it just not push any round out of the chamber at all? More details please.