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Dances with Wiener Dogs |
I understand why SIG dropped the P239 from the lineup. Given it's been overtaken by more easily concealable offerings, sales have probably fallen off. But did they have to just dump all parts support for it? SRT kits are now as rare as hens teeth. 357 SIG barrels are rare and expensive when you do find them. SIG doesn't even have magazines on their site for them. Even though it's outdated, I do like the 239. But just dropping parts support is disappointing. And I worry about other SIGs. If they stop producing them in favor of the plastic guns, what of all those? So anyone have any insight on this? Will SIG permanently drop parts support, of is this just temporary while they focus production on the Tupperware guns? _______________________ “The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.” Ayn Rand “If we relinquish our rights because of fear, what is it exactly, then, we are fighting for?” Sen. Rand Paul | ||
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Oriental Redneck |
Unless someone takes up the role of aftermarket part manufacturer for it, expect factory parts to eventually dry up. Q | |||
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There are WWII 1911s with original parts in them, that still work. I'd worry about it in about 20 years. "Ninja kick the damn rabbit" | |||
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Have you tried Top Gun Supply? ********* "Some people are alive today because it's against the law to kill them". | |||
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Sigforum K9 handler |
The P239 never breaks. Just keep shooting it. | |||
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It's why I ordered a couple parts kits when I heard they were dropping the P239, because I like to carry and shoot it. As irritated as I was, SIG did reduce mag prices down to $9.99 for my .40 a couple times when they dropped the P239. Another member and myself (twice) posted when they went on sale, here in the Pistol section for SF members to grab mags. And as another member pointed out a some weeks ago, 9mm mags are still available from one online outlet. But yeah, it's a bummer. | |||
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| Dances with Wiener Dogs |
I just find it odd that SIG essentially orphaned this gun. Many manufacturers keep up some level of parts support for a few years. But it seems like SIG dropped this one like a hot potato. Production line wasn't even cold and parts dried up. _______________________ “The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.” Ayn Rand “If we relinquish our rights because of fear, what is it exactly, then, we are fighting for?” Sen. Rand Paul | |||
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Im by no means and expert, but just because you can't find the parts on their web site does not mean they are'n't there... I'd bet they have a lot of misc P239 parts stored in their ware house along with much more.... My Native American Name: "Runs with Scissors" | |||
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| Dances with Wiener Dogs |
SIG is a business, so I don't see a financial reason for them to sit on unsold inventory. I just find it odd that SIG unceremoniously orphaned the 239. _______________________ “The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.” Ayn Rand “If we relinquish our rights because of fear, what is it exactly, then, we are fighting for?” Sen. Rand Paul | |||
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No different than how they abandoned the owners of 556/551a1 rifles. | |||
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I'm in a similar situation with a different pistol. Question: Is it feasible to have parts fabricated, or is that economically not realistic? | |||
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| Big Stack |
What parts are owners likely to need going forward? The most likely answer is springs. I would think vendors like Wolff would carry these. Whole magazines might be and issue (Wolff would carry magazine springs.) Maybe MecGar would sell them under their own name. What else is likely to wear out or break? | |||
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Other than mags it appears that the 239 shares many components with other models. And I’m seriously considering getting a 239 DA/SA IN 357. Love my Sigs but carry my Glocks | |||
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It does, but it also has many unique components. To the above question you might need lots of things beyond springs, to maintain the gun. SIG really sucks on the issue of discontinuing models. I have no issue with the idea that some products sales are low and we are going to stop production. It happens all the time. In every industry. But what doesn't happen in other industries is that spare parts dry up at the same time. Mostly producers commit to producing parts for some period of time. SIG never. Imagine your 2018 Ford car is the last of its generation and you can't get oil filters. Its totally nuts. “So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.” | |||
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| Big Stack |
Some industries are required by law to provide support for a specific amount of time. IIRC appliance manufacturers are required to provide parts for 10 years. So manufacturers find it profitable. My guess is that it isn't profitable for SIG, and they'd much rather that you replace a discontinued gun with a new one (from them.)
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I get that sig has no legal obligation. But they should care about what I think about it and supporting customers who bought their product. I'm still mad about the 556 debacle of end of life. I'm not alone. I'm not buying from sig on other firearms simply because they suck on this issue. and I am not alone. My S&W needed a part (15+years old) and they sent it to me. my 522 needed a part (a bit over 1 year old) and sig told me no. Eventually that will be an issue. What sig needs to do is announce end of life and give a reasonable period for owners to buy any spares/mags/etc. they need and then they can go on their merry way. their current process is totally wrong. “So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.” | |||
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| Dances with Wiener Dogs |
Many of the trigger parts are different. I want an SRT kit, but no go. Doesn't use the same parts as the P22X series. Also want a barrel in 357 SIG, but they've discontinued those. Magazines are also unique to the 239. _______________________ “The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.” Ayn Rand “If we relinquish our rights because of fear, what is it exactly, then, we are fighting for?” Sen. Rand Paul | |||
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Many years ago I bought a Sig P229. I LOVED it! Started getting rid of all other brands of handguns. I am now down to P229 and a P239. I love both and carry 229 in winter and 239 in summer. That said, I will not buy another Sig due to their policy of leaving customers hanging with zero support when they stop production of a gun. Yes, I know that Sig is not worried about my boycott. I've been looking at CZ and Dan Wesson (also CZ). Rod "Do not approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool from any direction." John Deacon, Author I asked myself if I was crazy, and we all said no. | |||
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Midwest Gun Works has a variety of P239 parts, they may be able to meet user needs for a while. RioGrande481 “I didn’t get where I am today by everything smelling of Bolivian Unicyclist’s jock straps!” C.J. Supercut 1976 | |||
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So, from the original question... what part exactly are you needing for your Sig P239 that you can't get from Sig? My Native American Name: "Runs with Scissors" | |||
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