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SW MP 2.0 Compact 4.0bbl vs HK P2000. In 9mm

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December 07, 2017, 12:50 AM
maxdog
SW MP 2.0 Compact 4.0bbl vs HK P2000. In 9mm
I’m looking at both. Hard to decide. Have the p2000 in 40., da/sa. Like it lots. Want to go to 9 mm. Have a gen 1 sw MPc (12 rd mag) and like it despite rough trigger. Shoot it fairly well.

Specs on a gen 2 sw mp2.0 compact and HK p2000 are very close. Sw slightly heavier unloaded. Sw holds 2 addl Rds (15 for sw mag) and 13 for hk mag.
Anyone done a comparison or have pics from above, side by side? Anyone done a review of both? Thoughts? Opinions?

Transitioning betweem da/sa to a striker fire doesn’t seem to be an issue.
December 07, 2017, 08:37 AM
patw
The only thing I didn't like about the P2000 and sk I owned, was the hammer bite. I have big mitts and no matter how I held it, it would always get me. It is a shame as I really liked them and they were very accurate.

As far as what to choose, that is tough.It all comes down to what you like. Both have pros and cons. Magazine cost will be higher with the HK but they should last you forever,as long as you don't dump the mags on the ground. I am not sure about the longevity of the P2000 and if they will continue to be in production like the USP. Again, it shouldn't be a problem as those guns can take a beating and come for more.I have a P30sk that I really like and have no complaints with HK in general, as they build some tough stuff. S&W makes some good firearms as well. Tough choice.
December 07, 2017, 08:45 AM
pedropcola
Easy choice, tough choice. I love my P2000. MP's are not in that category. I don't like the triggers although the 2.0 or Apex solves that. The MP certainly will have support and reasonably priced support long past the P2000. In fact, I would be surprised if the P2000 is long for this earth in the HK catalog.

That being said, I would love to buy a spare P2000 and call it a day. I think it is a better gun in every aspect other than price and parts support.
December 07, 2017, 08:49 AM
cslinger
Striker vs hammer that’s a choice.
Grip texture is a choice. I find the Smith texture awesome for shooting crappy for carry.
Aftermarket/support goes to Smith
Build quality I lean HK
USPC mags are not stupid expensive and easily available are the 2.0 compact mags readily available yet?

Are you comfortable with your current P2000? If so I say stick with that platform. No learning curve, your .40 mags will feed 9mm in an emergency, holsters should work etc.

If you have a case of iwannacoolnewgunitis go with the Smith by all accounts it’s a damn good update of a pretty good gun to begin with.

Oh an pursuant to he gun owners handbook chapter 6, subsection 6.7, line 83 I must add........

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December 07, 2017, 09:56 AM
jljones
I'd have to go with the 2.0. More after market parts, more holster choices, parts/magazines are much cheaper, higher capacity, etc.

You can't go wrong with either, but from what I read in your OP, the 2.0.




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December 07, 2017, 12:43 PM
Nick
I would go 2.0 I prefer a striker over DA/SA and the reset on the P2000 is just too long for my taste - I short stroked it more than I care to admit.


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December 07, 2017, 06:45 PM
rexles
I have a 2.0 Compact and a full size 2.0
Love both.
Is it possible to get a aftermarket 9mm barrel for your HK 40 you currently own? Change barrel and mags and you have a 9mm HK.
I did this with my M&P gen 1, bought a Storm Lake 9mm barrel and 9mm mags and use them in my M&P 40


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December 08, 2017, 01:30 PM
maxdog
I, ve read that a barrel exchange is possible on the HK. HK site indicates it works. Most seem successful, although a few have mentioned relibility issues with the 9mm barrel in the 40 frame. Reccommendation seems to be fine for range but maybe risky for carry.

I’m leaning towards sw because I have 2 17 rd mags that are spares for the gen1 12 rounder as well as a holster. The price is attracrive as well as the readily available parts. That being said, the HK in 40 that I have is a wonderful pistol that I choose if Icould only own one handgun.

Good dilema to have I guess. 2 excellent choices.
December 08, 2017, 02:30 PM
az4783054
I'd take an HK P2000/P2000sk, in any caliber, over a S&W any day...for professional work, range or personal safety.


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December 20, 2017, 06:36 PM
maxdog
Went with the SW. The 2.0 4inch is wonderful. Trigger and overall ergonomics are excellent. I think both of these are excellent. I still carry the .40 p2000 and p2000sk.
December 20, 2017, 09:59 PM
Dusty78
I’ve had both and while I like the P2000 the new M&P 2.0 Compact is pretty sweet. I shot mine today for the first time. Not too shabby at 10 yards...




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December 22, 2017, 08:18 PM
JBP55
Nice shooting Dusty.
December 22, 2017, 08:31 PM
cslinger
Your shooting to the left. Razz

I can make fun because well I group like that at less then one yard.....with an ice pick.... if I haven’t had any coffee that day ..... maybe.
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December 23, 2017, 06:05 PM
Redhookbklyn
quote:
Originally posted by Dusty78:
I’ve had both and while I like the P2000 the new M&P 2.0 Compact is pretty sweet. I shot mine today for the first time. Not too shabby at 10 yards...



Nice shooting, Dusty!



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December 24, 2017, 10:44 AM
JGIORD
quote:
Originally posted by Dusty78:
I’ve had both and while I like the P2000 the new M&P 2.0 Compact is pretty sweet. I shot mine today for the first time. Not too shabby at 10 yards...



Geez, remind me never to piss you off! Awesome shooting. This old broken down guy could never do that

Had a P2000, really liked the gun but wasn't thrilled with the mag release location. The H&K mag release locations seemed to bug my middle finger. I never had problems with the old Walthers that have the European mag release.

I have not yet handled the SW 2.0 but I found the older models were too thin and pointy in the grip and I didn't like the trigger.
December 25, 2017, 08:22 AM
Cobra21
quote:
Originally posted by az4783054:
I'd take an HK P2000/P2000sk, in any caliber, over a S&W any day...for professional work, range or personal safety.


Hmm...I'll need to get you out to the range with my new 2.0 and Compact. That way you will at least be less certain. Big Grin

Dusty, Well, why don't you just go kick some ass with that pea shooter! Nice shootin'.


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December 26, 2017, 12:30 AM
cslinger
I tend to dislike, through previous experiences, Smith autos (3rd Gen not withstanding) but man that 2.0 M&P seems like a solid pistol. I like my DA/SA and hence love my P2000s but the 2.0 Smiths seem like a damn good gun


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December 26, 2017, 07:41 AM
P320Mac
Finally gave up fitting VP9SK to a competitor. Changed two springs to get trigger down to about 4.5 pounds-force - springs from H&K. Found the compound recoil spring is way too stiff for anything but warm factory ammo - so can not craft better ammo. And finally, shooter has slightly smaller hands such that with all of the adjustments available could not reach trigger in an optimum way.

Felt the M&P M2.0 4.25" that I shoot in IDPA: even with the larger grips that I use, feel and finger placement were very close to working. Thinking seriously of the M&P M2.0 4" "Compact." About $200 less than H&K when one needs at least three magazines.
Advantages of M2.0 include: four grip sizes, easy sear change to Apex two-dot and trigger pull is below 4.5 pounds-force, lots of even better sights (Williams has a fiber-fully-adjustable that is a delight), recoil-spring is on a rod so not too difficult to adjust for ammo, and lots of "stuff" available to fit M&P.

H&K is off to safe in company with P320. Much better choices are available today for competition.

For carry, great choices are PPS-M2 (eats everything) LC9s Pro, G43, or even G42. Jury is still out on M2.0 Shield. Just my opinion.


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December 26, 2017, 01:19 PM
soggy_spinout
My cousin has a P2000; the way it shoots for me reminds me of my USPc. Its DA/SA is okay but not great compared to a striker. The M&P9 2.0 Compact is really a nice shooter; for me the S&W is the no-brainer choice.
December 26, 2017, 05:09 PM
cslinger
quote:
the way it shoots for me reminds me of my USPc. Its DA/SA is okay but not great compared to a striker.


That’s really all it is. A product improved, slimmer USPc.

The 2.0 Smiths are very enticing. I have gone back over that past several years to DA/SA though.


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