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August 17, 2019, 10:45 AM
tschiemer
HK P7
Update: The box is marked Grade A. Thanks for the posts.

Further update: following cleaning after disassembling as Parabellum explained, we took it and the new SAS 239 pictured below and one thing noticeably different was the P 7 has very light felt recoil, and follow up shots are easy today. The decocker, light trigger pull, with the grip, all work well. I tried the slide catch - slide open and slide close by squeezing the decocker after reading below here later and it works. The only thing hard to get used to is the heel mag release.

Shooting the 239-9 SAS was similarly enjoyable. A member has a VM-2 made for the PSP and a PSP mag arriving Monday so I will have a proper holster. The PSP fits in a 239-9 MS VM2 length wise but is too loose do a proper holster would be essential. However the 239 is suited for normal carry and 2 members recently supplied MS iwb holsters for the 239 and a Galco Miami Classic shoulder holster fits the 239 well.

Question for members: How much did the squeeze cockers sell for when new , as a P7 M8 in the 1980s st your HK Dealer? I remember SP89s were $1000 in the styrofoam boxes new.

Update: Thinking Sig... typo corrected!

Absolutely stunning to find one as this. Wonderful design!

https://photos.app.goo.gl/2jqLFgyZQDJiRqeY8

Does anyone know the trigger pull when the squeeze cocker is depressed? I read it is 1.5 lbs to hold it depressed. It feels very light. Should be very accurate. Reading manuals I found and downloaded now as there was no manual with it and I forgot how it breaks down to clean.

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August 17, 2019, 11:05 AM
Dusty78
Huh? Confused


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August 17, 2019, 11:34 AM
ruger357
Maybe autocorrect changed PSP to Sig? Nice looking gun. I lov mine.


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August 17, 2019, 11:35 AM
parabellum
HK P7 Manual

You're going to want to remove the word 'Sig' from your subject line. Makes no sense.

To disassemble your P7, remove the magazine, then depress the round button on the left side of the frame (just below the slide serrations), and while holding down the button, pull the slide backwards and upwards at the same time. You'll then be able to move the slide forward and off of the frame.

That's a beautiful example of a P7.


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August 17, 2019, 12:06 PM
SIGfourme
It’s 10-15 pounds to “squeeze” the frame safety.
1.5 pounds to maintain it in the squeezed position
Trigger pull is 4-5 pounds, single action
Striker fired, no hammer
Fixed barrel, polygonal rifling
110 degree grip angle
Very similar to the Walther CCP in terms of field strip, except the ridiculous Walther take down tool.
P5 was Sig, P6 was Walther , P7 was HK for the designations for the police trials in the 70’s.
August 17, 2019, 12:19 PM
SIGfourme
In the manual that Para provided, catch lever is identified. The catch lever is analogous to the slide release lever on modern day pistols. You can rack the slide open without a magazine in place by pressing the catch lever. To release the slide- squeeze cock the gun. Little known fact about the P7.
August 17, 2019, 12:42 PM
tschiemer
Parabellum and all... I took Sig out of the title. A member sold me his Sig 239-9 and I took delivery of it from my ffl at the same time, so I had both on my mind. I meant to type only HK, not Sig

Not to be undone, here is the Sig beside the HK. Great pistols and similarly well designed.. Pic of the Sig too.


https://photos.app.goo.gl/HwWqhGaPT5wFvwUG9

A great article on the P7:

https://www.thetruthaboutguns....he-best-pistol-ever/

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August 17, 2019, 02:34 PM
jimmy123x
quote:
Originally posted by SIGfourme:
In the manual that Para provided, catch lever is identified. The catch lever is analogous to the slide release lever on modern day pistols. You can rack the slide open without a magazine in place by pressing the catch lever. To release the slide- squeeze cock the gun. Little known fact about the P7.


You can also keep the trigger depressed and then squeeze the squeeze cocker and it will fire also.
August 17, 2019, 06:10 PM
rock185
tschiemer, I've owned examples of both the 239, P7 and P7M8. Very reliable, high quality pistols IMHO, with an accuracy edge going to the P7. I could occasionally get accuracy with the P7/P7M8 equal to the SIG P210. I say "occasionally" because the small size, short sight radius, white dot sights and trigger made the P7 a little harder for me to shoot for best accuracy from the bench, over a rest.


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August 18, 2019, 10:15 AM
throwingdown
They are awesome pistols. I bought a pair of A grade police trade ins for about 1600 back when they were available. Sold one to a friend and the other to a guy on another forum who offered me so much I couldn't pass. I bought a P7M8 and had that for a while. Sold it in search for the P7M13.

I ended up with two. One shooter and one unfired NIB.

They have so much to offer and the only downside is they get hot after 3-4 mags.

Take care of it. They are no longer made and have a cult following. It will only go up in value.

Congrats.
August 18, 2019, 11:37 AM
bac1023
I'm a big fan... Big Grin



August 18, 2019, 01:21 PM
SIGfourme
Bac- nicely done.
Love the P7
August 18, 2019, 04:08 PM
jimmy123x
BAC, I have a P7 PSP that is nice, but I came across I think it was a factory satin hard chromed one of the surplus ones with the black grips back when they were still cheap......beautiful combination and I couldn't justify buying a second one...…...I think it was around $800 perhaps even a little less. MAN am I kicking myself now
August 18, 2019, 05:32 PM
sns3guppy
A neighboring department had issued P7's years ago. When they transitioned, I was offered two of them at a great price. I didn't take them. Always regretted it.
August 18, 2019, 06:09 PM
bac1023
quote:
Originally posted by jimmy123x:
BAC, I have a P7 PSP that is nice, but I came across I think it was a factory satin hard chromed one of the surplus ones with the black grips back when they were still cheap......beautiful combination and I couldn't justify buying a second one...…...I think it was around $800 perhaps even a little less. MAN am I kicking myself now


No factory hard chrome, only satin nickel
August 18, 2019, 08:16 PM
357fuzz
quote:
Originally posted by SIGfourme:
It’s 10-15 pounds to “squeeze” the frame safety.
1.5 pounds to maintain it in the squeezed position
Trigger pull is 4-5 pounds, single action
Striker fired, no hammer
Fixed barrel, polygonal rifling
110 degree grip angle
Very similar to the Walther CCP in terms of field strip, except the ridiculous Walther take down tool.
P5 was Sig, P6 was Walther , P7 was HK for the designations for the police trials in the 70’s.


P5 was Walther. P6 was Sig.
August 18, 2019, 09:48 PM
tschiemer
I found a reproduction of the HK price sheet for 1991 listing some that may be of interest. It is in a discussion and I hope it is acceptable to link to it.

https://www.thefirearmblog.com...ists-1985-1991-1992/
August 19, 2019, 12:13 PM
bac1023
quote:
Originally posted by 357fuzz:
quote:
Originally posted by SIGfourme:
It’s 10-15 pounds to “squeeze” the frame safety.
1.5 pounds to maintain it in the squeezed position
Trigger pull is 4-5 pounds, single action
Striker fired, no hammer
Fixed barrel, polygonal rifling
110 degree grip angle
Very similar to the Walther CCP in terms of field strip, except the ridiculous Walther take down tool.
P5 was Sig, P6 was Walther , P7 was HK for the designations for the police trials in the 70’s.


P5 was Walther. P6 was Sig.


I'm a big fan of the Walther P5 also...



August 19, 2019, 01:15 PM
parabellum
Let's not drift the man's thread, please.
August 19, 2019, 04:47 PM
elmer
I purchased a PSP when they first arrived. Think the price was $600.00. Mid 70s, I do remember that my serial number was lower than the one featured on the cover of Guns & Ammo. Nice shooter. Had Ken Null make a holster for it.