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The XD is such a simple design (elegant) that all you need to do is devise a solonoid actuated by a switch and put a battery someplace to trip it. I remember in high school playing with remote controlled planes and building rockets. My mom almost fainted when she found me cooking rocket fuel in her deep frier. A little electric pistol shouldn't be too hard. Wonder why there aren't a lot of them now?
 
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The XD is such a simple design (elegant) that all you need to do is devise a solonoid actuated by a switch and put a battery someplace to trip it. I remember in high school playing with remote controlled planes and building rockets. My mom almost fainted when she found me cooking rocket fuel in her deep frier. A little electric pistol shouldn't be too hard. Wonder why there aren't a lot of them now?


The two reasons that I can see are if the battery goes dead the gun becomes a paper weight. The other is it wouldn't take much to turn a gun with a simple switch and solenoid into a full auto gun. A slam fire .22 is easy to make as well.
 
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I finally had a chance to try the trigger out on the Mosquito. It is smoother then before and even on double action there isn't any gritty feeling now. The other Mosquito is approaching 10,000 rounds down range now. The trigger on that one is not quite as good as the newer one is now. I would say it was time well spent.

The Mosquito with the trigger job got a fair workout today. I was trying different ammo since now it should be broken in.
Mini-mags, no problems.
Federal bulk, a few that needed a second strike to go boom. (2 total)
CCI Green Tag, no problems.
CCI Standard Vel., no problems.
CCI Blazer, a few rounds had no problems. This ammo was shot after shooting several hundred rounds without any cleaning.

I finished with more Standard Vel. and Mini-Mags and had no more problems.

Well over 600 rounds fired today and other then needing 2 second strikes on the Federal and multiple problems with the Blazers it was just plain fun shooting.

I didn't lube any ammo.
 
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Has anyone tried to do the trigger job on their Mosquito besides Wrangler and myself?

If you have what is your opinion of the difference is any?

Did the information here provide any help?

Should we change anything?
 
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Well,I sort of stayed away to let others have their say but it feels like that tree falling alone in the forest except for you and me, Dave.Come on folks lets hear from you.
 
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I'm just waiting on the tools to do mine. Will report back when completed.
 
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So, where are the mosquito shooters? Anything new Dave?
 
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I recently passed the 13,000 round mark with my Mosquito and it is still going strong. Cool I am considering tearing into it and polishing the internals to see if I can improve the DA pull.

I took a friend shooting about a week ago for his first time ever. I brought a Browning Hi Power 9mm, Taurus Mod 94 (22lr revolver) and Sig Mosquito and between the three Skeeter was his favorite.


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Picked up a threaded barrel model last Thursday. Read this post front to back Friday and got approved to post this morning so here I am.

My question, where would you start?

The pistol had been in this dealers stock for a while and it's serial # is A041XXX, so I don't know how much trouble I'm going to have out of it. I don't quit on a gun so it doesn't really where she starts out. Sig makes a fine weapon (this is my 3rd I have 2 P239's that I love) so I know I can polish it past any early on "growing pains" it may have.

Not to mention, I submitted some form 4's last week and one is for a SWR Warlock. I would like to complete any mods and break-in while I'm waiting on the ATF.

By the way, Mississippi Dave and Wrangler, you guys have built one heck of an information laden post. You guys don't go anywhere, I'm very likely to get myself in trouble before long.

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I'd love to do a trigger job to my Mosquito, but I have never done any gunsmithing although I am pretty handy at do-it-yourself jobs. I like getting my hands dirty every chance I get.

I guess when I "grow some", I'll give it a try.

For now, I have about 1200 rounds through my Mosquito, and it has really smoothed out in regards to FTFs. I have the heavy spring in, and use CCI Mini Mags.


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Picked up a threaded barrel model last Thursday. Read this post front to back Friday and got approved to post this morning so here I am.

My question, where would you start?

The pistol had been in this dealers stock for a while and it's serial # is A041XXX, so I don't know how much trouble I'm going to have out of it. I don't quit on a gun so it doesn't really where she starts out. Sig makes a fine weapon (this is my 3rd I have 2 P239's that I love) so I know I can polish it past any early on "growing pains" it may have.

Not to mention, I submitted some form 4's last week and one is for a SWR Warlock. I would like to complete any mods and break-in while I'm waiting on the ATF.

By the way, Mississippi Dave and Wrangler, you guys have built one heck of an information laden post. You guys don't go anywhere, I'm very likely to get myself in trouble before long.

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You gun was made most likely in 2007. I don't think you will have many problems if any. You should start by cleaning your new gun up. If you remove the left grip you will see the base of the hammer there is a notch and that is part of the sear when not cocked. A shot of dry Teflon spray, Moly or even RemOil will improve the trigger a little. If you use the liquid Remoil spray work the hammer a bit and use the decocker to work it in better. I suggest blowing out any excessive liquid. You should be able to dry fire it a bit with the safety on and an empty magazine inserted. The safety bar should prevent the firing pin from striking the breach. Dry firing is not normally recommended for any rim fire gun. Put on the grip put a drop of oil in the hole on the side of the slide for the firing pin and oh yes, clean and very lightly lube the magazine(s). Next get plenty of ammo to do the break-in. It seems the more you shoot this gun the better it gets. Watch the slide spring. The tapered end goes on the guide pin. I like shooting Mini-Mags with the light spring to break them in. After a few hundred you can start playing with other rounds. Even if some ammo doesn't work well for you, give it a try again after you shoot another 1,000 rounds through the gun. You might be surprised what a difference it can make. Wrangler is here some place and he has done trigger work before. As for the trigger job even just polishing off the black coating on the sear will make a noticeable improvement. You can just polish it the hard way and shoot 10 to 20,000 rounds instead.

A little time and shooting lots of ammo makes the guns shoot better. I like shooting mine so a few thousand rounds goes pretty fast. One other thing to look for is the screw that secures the barrel. It is under the take down lever. If it gets loose the gun will jam and your shots will start getting worse. Wrangler said taking the screw out and putting blue loc-tight on the threads and letting it dry fully before putting it back in works very well. I think so too. That way you can take it back out again if needed. Let us know how th new gun works before and after the can.

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I recently passed the 13,000 round mark with my Mosquito and it is still going strong. Cool I am considering tearing into it and polishing the internals to see if I can improve the DA pull.

I took a friend shooting about a week ago for his first time ever. I brought a Browning Hi Power 9mm, Taurus Mod 94 (22lr revolver) and Sig Mosquito and between the three Skeeter was his favorite.


I know I won't ever catch up to you in rounds fired in a Mosquito but I'm trying. In a wheel gun (.22) I prefer the Tracker over the 94. I suggest you try one if the chance ever comes along. My wife is trying to claim the new plain Jane Mosquito. She likes it better then her P22. I'm glad I have 2 so I can shoot one of them at least. lol. It is good to here you still have time to shoot your Mosquito.
 
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So, where are the mosquito shooters? Anything new Dave?


Well you seem to have gotten this thread going again. I've put several hundred rounds through the Mosquitoes each week and it is harder to not let my wife claim the new Mosquito. Such are the problems of life. I'm just glad she has a good time going with me to the range. She is even trying the P226 from time to time. Since she is getting better shooting it gets to be more fun for both of us.

How goes it with you?
 
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Mississippi Dave, Looks like I cursed myself with my previous post on this thread!

I dont know if you caught my post earlier this afternoon but something with the trigger on my Mosquito broke today on the range. The hammer stays cocked back and the trigger will go forward and all the way back until it hits the frame and the hammer just stays cocked back.

I called Sig's customer service and since the gun still has 3 months before the 1 year warranty expires they emailed me a shipping label and are fixing the gun free of any charge. The guy at Sig said it sounds like a trigger bar spring broke. They said it should not take more than 10 days to get it fixed which is good because I shoot that gun every time I go to the range.


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Mississippi Dave, Looks like I cursed myself with my previous post on this thread!

I dont know if you caught my post earlier this afternoon but something with the trigger on my Mosquito broke today on the range. The hammer stays cocked back and the trigger will go forward and all the way back until it hits the frame and the hammer just stays cocked back.

I called Sig's customer service and since the gun still has 3 months before the 1 year warranty expires they emailed me a shipping label and are fixing the gun free of any charge. The guy at Sig said it sounds like a trigger bar spring broke. They said it should not take more than 10 days to get it fixed which is good because I shoot that gun every time I go to the range.


I think he is right on about what happened. I wouldn't be surprised if you got the gun back with all new springs installed. Then you will just about have a new gun. It is good it happened before the year was over. Let us know how it works when it comes back.
 
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Sorry to hear about yor trouble but it is easy to fix if the spring is all it needs. Dave, I am glad to know your wife is enjoying shooting. I hope tomorrow everyone votes for the guy who is shooting friendly. I don't think he is from Chicago either. Take care and enjoy the mosquito, I do. I have been enjoying my Henry carbine too.
 
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Dave,

Per your instructions I will clean it this morning and haul it to the range around lunch time.

I stopped by on the way in an picked up 400 rounds of Mini Mags (200 HP, 200 RN just to see if there is a difference).

I'm really looking forward to playing with this little shooter. Even with the Mini Mags, $.07 a shot beats $.25. Still cheaper than I can crank out reloads for one of my 1911's.

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Okay, I am officially impressed with the Sig Mosquito.

I did a cursory cleaning this morning, didn't have the time to do the cleaning that Dave recommended, I'll do that tonight. Went to the range and shot up 400 Mini Mag's. No difference in performance between hollow or round point. Had 7 total failures and all were failures to feed. 4 times no round was stripped from the magazine, 3 times the slide didn't get behind the shell and moved the new round just far enough forward to wedge in between the feed ramp and the slide. These failures didn't take place until after 320 rounds had been fired.

3 magazines were used and none of the failures were magazine related. I used the heavy recoil spring for all rounds fired.

Standing with no rest I was able to put together 100 shots 2.88", 80 shots 2.5", 80 shots 2.5" and the last group was 60 in 3.25"

The trigger feels like dragging a stick on gravel when you take up the slack getting to the single action. Where do you polish for that one. I didn't have my guage, but single action is somewhere around 6-7 lbs and double, well lets just say it nearly takes 2 people to pull it back. I don't mind the heavy pull as much as I do the rough drag that it takes to get there.

All said, this is one of the most fun 22l's I have shot. I will be able to tighten up some on the groups when I get the trigger to my liking and if I need to shoot 1 hole groups for whatever reason I will dig my 7" Model 41 out of the safe.

Dave, where would you go to get rid of the rough trigger travel?
 
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I guess you are talking about the gravel feeling of the double action. I found mine came from the pivot point where the trigger and trigger bar go together. If it is a bit rough feeling when shooting it in single action the trigger job on this thread starting on page 5 by Wrangler through page 7 pretty much covers what we have done. I found just polishing the black finish off on the sear point of the hammer and sear bar also applying a good lube works wonders. I used Moly powder from KG Coating on all the parts dealing with the trigger assembly. That way I could keep it lubed and still dry. I would think dry teflon would do the same thing. Moly is better for heat and pressure than teflon in most cases. In a pinch I would even use RemOil since it has teflon in it. I took very little material off mostly just the coating and then polished the surfaces. I don't have any gritty feeling now in double or single action. The trigger pull is still around 5.5 lbs. single action and 13.5 lbs double action. I haven't noticed any over travel. If you would like more information on using the stone Wrangler is the one to ask. I just wanted a crisp break and to get rid of the gritty feeling of the double action. For this the trigger job worked for me. The trigger pull got about one pound less in both single and double action. Being so heavy to start with it didn't make a big difference in the end. My shooting did improve with the improve trigger.

The white spring worked better for me during break in with the Mini-mags. I found putting a little moly powder on the ramp going to the chamber let the ammo enter easier after shooting lots of rounds. It also makes clean up easier too. Great stuff that Moly powder. Mixing the Moly powder with some KG4 gun oil makes a nice grease like lube for slides. Someone I read on another site uses RemOil with the Moly powder and thinks it is the best for the slide rails and the bottom of the slide where the hammer rides to be cocked.

I hope I answered your question if not it may be due to a long day and not thinking in the right terms.

Still shooting over 300 rounds and seven problems isn't all that bad for the first day. I know it keeps getting better with use.

If you ever have a question about the threaded barrel on a Mosquito Stickman428 is the one to ask. I don't know of anyone that has put more rounds through one then him.

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Dirwin, the only thing I would add to Dave's remarks is to polish the top of the sear. By hte way I see you are in Tyler. My wife was born there.
 
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