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Lipsey’s is Selling a “Retro” Glock 17 – “P80”

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September 02, 2020, 04:59 PM
.38supersig
Lipsey’s is Selling a “Retro” Glock 17 – “P80”
Nice!

While i don't need one...




September 02, 2020, 06:04 PM
mcs1564
quote:
Originally posted by .38supersig:
Nice!

While i don't need one...


Agreed. It’s interesting enough for me where I will be picking one up.

Started putting a couple a calls in today to see if any of the local shops will be getting some in.


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September 02, 2020, 10:31 PM
JMag
Nope; hard pass.


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September 02, 2020, 11:11 PM
P220 Smudge
I dunno. After looking at the video, I noticed a few things that jumped out at me. The trigger guard is much beefier than the Gen 1, it looks like a Gen 3, as does the thickness of the frame itself. That was enough to get me to dig mine out of the safe and compare it vs. all the close up shots of the P80. There's a lot of little differences. Pretty much every last little detail is different, as I look at it. Angled breech face? Ewww.

It's not going to feel exactly like a Gen 1 in the hand. They took a Gen 3 mold, omitted the rail and thumb rests, and changed the grip texture. This isn't a re-release, it's an homage.

It really is a shame they didn't save the original mold. Had they done so, and replicated it with a few things cleaned up, this would be something I could get excited about. As it stands, on a closer look, this doesn't interest me as much as it did initially.


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September 03, 2020, 05:15 PM
BBMW
Why do I have a feeling the vast majority of these will end up never being shot, going into gun safes, until they go auction to people who will also let them sit in the safe until they go to auction...

Funny thing is, it's not a real historical gun.
September 04, 2020, 05:37 PM
ceptor781
RKGuns blew through 50 of them in about 35-40 minutes this morning. I handled one and it is most definitely not a Gen 1. It felt like a Gen 2 with Gen 1 texturing. Kinda cool but I’m still on the fence leaning toward no. If it had the German military markings along with P80 I think I’d be in.



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September 04, 2020, 06:44 PM
Rob Decker
This is it. They finally built one I'll buy and not sell cuz I don't like it.

Previous Glocks have come and gone because I bought them because they made sense...and sold them because...meh.

This? I WANT one of these.


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September 04, 2020, 08:59 PM
xmod
I’m getting one and I like the old school tupperware box.

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September 05, 2020, 03:25 PM
bigwagon
I really like the idea of it, but probably not enough to buy one considering I already have a pretty nice early Gen 2.
September 05, 2020, 04:23 PM
OLD_COP
Homage or not, I will buy one of these should I run into one. It's unlikely that I will search one out though. More of an impulsive purchase like my 19M.
September 05, 2020, 05:09 PM
stoic-one
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Originally posted by P220 Smudge:
It really is a shame they didn't save the original mold. Had they done so, and replicated it with a few things cleaned up, this would be something I could get excited about.
I agree, but the original molds were probably modified over the years when they "thickened" the frame. They probably removed material from the molds as the design got thicker...


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September 06, 2020, 08:33 AM
PGT
handled one on Friday at my LGS. Not a Glock guy but I'd snag one for maybe being collectible.


September 06, 2020, 12:11 PM
parabellum
I don't know if Austrian Army-issue P80s came in plastic boxes, but if they did, it would have been this one. Note the space for 17 9mm cartridges:





Later Gen1 and then Gen2 G17s came in this box. Storage space for cartridges removed. Note the plastic barrier which goes around the grip strap and the trigger guard. Note the shape of the part of it in front of the grip strap:





Now, here's the box which came with early Gen3 G17s. Note the undulations in the grip strap barrier to accommodate the finger grooves:





Now, take a look at the box for the "reissue":



As I said, wrong box. Double wrong box. It's a Gen3 box. The pistol is not a P80, no pencil barrel and the slide is different because of this. The frame is different as well, as are the magazines, and it's in a box for a later version of the G17. Spend your money on it if you wish, but I don't know what it's supposed to be.


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September 06, 2020, 01:51 PM
P220 Smudge
Hopefully they listen to enough of this kind of feedback to hear that what a lot of us would like to see is an actual reissue of the original and not a Gen 3 with the Gen 1 texture on the grip frame, and not half-assing the box it comes in, if it’s designed with collectability in mind. There’s got to be an accurate way to make a mold of an original, perhaps 3D scanning and 3D printing a mold. I could even be okay with updated frame rails or small things they consider to be safety and liability updates, so long as it actually looks and feels like a Gen 1. I don’t hold out much hope, though.


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September 06, 2020, 09:23 PM
jljones
I handled one at the LGS on Friday. It was really neat. But it wasn’t the $900 worth of neat that they are going for on Gunbroker.




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September 06, 2020, 10:27 PM
Pale Horse
quote:
Originally posted by jljones:
I handled one at the LGS on Friday. It was really neat. But it wasn’t the $900 worth of neat that they are going for on Gunbroker.


What was your LGS selling it for?




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September 06, 2020, 10:41 PM
jljones
They are selling them on Gunbroker. One went near $900, the other has no bids as of right now.




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September 07, 2020, 03:36 PM
12131
$750 at PSA's Labor Day Deals.


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September 07, 2020, 03:41 PM
RogueJSK
It's interesting that they went to the extent of specially modifying/reverting the slide to use the old style 90 degree extractor, but yet ignored the more obvious features of the slide/barrel/frame/box that made the Gen 1 distinct.

A pencil barrel is a hell of a lot more obvious than an extra 15 degree angle on the extractor.
September 08, 2020, 03:32 PM
P220 Smudge
quote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
It's interesting that they went to the extent of specially modifying/reverting the slide to use the old style 90 degree...


But they didn't. They used a "flat" extractor without an LCI, but the breech face and the extractor have the 15 degree cut that every Glock since somewhere in the Gen 2's has.

You can see it clearly here:



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