1991 (KB) factory 2-toner, with all black controls
I'll take it. Oh wait... I'm not in the classifieds??? Damn it!
My JJ P228 has a red box. The P228 does not have any importer markings so I assume it is a GI bring back.
Holy cow! I never thought you would show up. I was aware of the JJ only because yours is listed in the serial number thread. Thanks!
Wow, never have seen one even a picture of this... Would you be kind a post a pic or two?? Either way, thanks for sharing the info.
Great source for 228 info...
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A couple of SIGs and some others...
Beautiful simply beautiful. Thanks for sharing.
You are correct. I was using the -1 to distinguish the mag well dimensions.
Hmm, this could very well be the answer regarding the JJ P228. It might just be that it was never released on the US commercial market, and that is why it is so rare. Thanks. I will make a note in the original post.
Thank you for taking the time to compile the summary in the thread starter, and provide photos of your examples of the P228. Great job!
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Thank you for the information and pictures.
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Fantastic post. Lots of great information. Last year I was in a LGS, and noticed a used German made 228. I came back a few days later to buy and it was already gone.
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Fantastic post on my favorite pistola!
That pretty much covers it 12131!....the only one I don't see in the bunch and it may not qualify because it wasn't regular a production gun, almost impossible to locate these days, would be the M11's (no rail) that actually came in as CPO's years back (according to SIG lore), with the M11 visible (not blurred out). I've seen pictures of them in the past, see below.
I actually hate to mention this also but I have a M11B that I got directly from SIG Academy the slide is not proofed and has no S/N, but is marked made in Germany, the barrel have the matching S/N with the frame. The other M11B (Sig Academy) I have has the proof mark, DE, and S/N on the slide and frame, but no S/N on the barrel, so not Triple S/N. I only mention this as there may be a few other M11B owners who have these as well, with only so few of them out there it's hard to understand why the variations exist, I can only theorize that they must have run out of the German proofed slides at some point.
Yeah why me right? Basically, what I've described may be considered anomalies, may be best to just footnote these.
12131, I know you want to be completely thorough with anything you put out, that's the only reason I mentioned the above guns.
Let me know if you want me to post pics of the mentioned M11B.
That is an interesting M11 that you posted. I wonder how it "escaped" as I've always heard that current guns with military markings could not be sold commercially. Do the "M11" and "U.S." markings look correct (size and font)? The slide is interesting, too, as there is no "Made in Germany" and the font of the P228 looks different to me. I can't make out the first number of the serial number to get an approximate age. Did this gun sell for $2,800? I heard of a CPO P228 sell for almost $3,000 (maybe it was on Gunbroker and not Guns America) possibly because the buyer thought is was a real M11.
rpm2010, are you saying your second M11B has a proof mark and the "DE", or are you calling the "DE" a proof mark (because it isn't)? If it is the latter, then both of your Sig Academy M11Bs are interesting because I thought all of the M11Bs were assembled in Germany and had German proof marks. I guess I was mistaken.
It is my understanding that a complete assembled gun is proofed, so running out of proofed slides makes no sense to me. The lack of proof marks makes me think these M11Bs were either assembled in the U.S., or are CPOs. Were they sold to you as new guns?
I apologize for the digression, but sometimes I get caught up in the historical minutiae (trivia?) of SIG pistols.
rpm2010, yes, I remember that CPO M11. Always wonder what the story was behind it. Obviously, it wasn't part of the 50 M11Bs.
My CPO M11B in the original post was verified with SIG that a SIG employee originally owned it new. I guess he shot it some, and when time to sell, he had it "CPOed".
Please, post yours. I know Sigmonkey has posted his M11B previously, also. Come on, monkey, please join in.
I also invite the following folks to post their specific models that are not yet in this thread. It would be most appreciated.
biggs: your 1988 (JJ) P228.
cherokee2u: your 1990 (KA) all nickel.
straightshooter01: your 1993 (KD) all nickel.
AH.74: your all black controls 1994 (KE) 2-toner.
Sarge1998: your W. German 1995 (KF) gun.
xwesler: your all German made and proofed 2011 P228R.This message has been edited. Last edited by: 12131,
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I think I might get me one of these P228 thingies.
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I am sure that I am missing something major and obvious here but in comparing 12131's M11 (etched out) serial #339xxx to this M11 serial #337xxx side by side. I would think that these would both be 2009 guns from the same general batch. But 12131's M11 is railed and has hooked trigger guard and has a very different font for the P228 marking.
The short trigger on the second gun could have been changed out obviously.
Did M11's come in railed and non-railed at the same time. I thought that the govt contracts were specific and did not allow variances? Could it be that that is why Sig had to etch these out and sell them commercially, due to the rail not meeting the current mil specs?? I am sure I am missing something here??This message has been edited. Last edited by: straightshooter01,
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228 is a great companion to take with you when you leave home.
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