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The P228 - facts, factoids, and opinions ((**Updated** - P226C (aka, PROTO-1) info incorporated into OP))

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April 23, 2021, 10:46 PM
wgsigs
The P228 - facts, factoids, and opinions ((**Updated** - P226C (aka, PROTO-1) info incorporated into OP))
What has happened to the prototype?
April 23, 2021, 11:06 PM
12131
quote:
Originally posted by wgsigs:
What has happened to the prototype?

Nothing. Nobody has won it, yet. Not too many participants, so far.


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September 28, 2021, 07:28 AM
raf1919
Hi Curious about my P228

Serial B111 6XX
on Frame has N with Eagle
on Slide has 2 proofs (kiel and cologne) and N and KK
Barrel no markings

Doesn't say anywhere on it where its made.

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September 28, 2021, 10:20 AM
12131
quote:
Originally posted by raf1919:
Hi Curious about my P228

Serial B111 6XX
on Frame has N with Eagle
on Slide has 2 proofs (kiel and cologne) and N and KK
Barrel no markings

Doesn't say anywhere on it where its made. I got quote from guns.com and thought about selling it but if its special gun maybe i'll keep it.

Sounds like a FrankenP228. That serial number would put it in 1990 (KA). The date code KK on the slide indicates a 1999 proof year. I take it the slide has no serial number on it? Have pics?


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September 28, 2021, 11:28 AM
raf1919
correct only frame has a serial. It was remanufactured gun by sig so that makes sense that they probably mixed up parts.
September 28, 2021, 11:40 AM
12131
So it's just a refurbished gun, CPO (Certified Pre-Owned) as SIG would call it, with W. German frame from 1990, German slide from 1999, and barrel from the US (being without any markings on it).

And please, don't mention any selling anywhere on the forum except in the Classifieds. This is a long standing rule.


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September 28, 2021, 11:41 AM
raf1919
quote:
Originally posted by 12131:
quote:
Originally posted by raf1919:
Hi Curious about my P228

Serial B111 6XX
on Frame has N with Eagle
on Slide has 2 proofs (kiel and cologne) and N and KK
Barrel no markings

Doesn't say anywhere on it where its made. I got quote from guns.com and thought about selling it but if its special gun maybe i'll keep it.

Sounds like a FrankenP228. That serial number would put it in 1990 (KA). The date code KK on the slide indicates a 1999 proof year. I take it the slide has no serial number on it? Have pics?


here is pics link https://photos.app.goo.gl/82CgVwxun18QUNXb9
September 28, 2021, 11:45 AM
12131
^^^^ Yeah, the red plastic case CPO. And the date on that box indicates the CPO's birthday, not when the original gun was made.


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September 28, 2021, 11:51 AM
raf1919
quote:
Originally posted by 12131:
^^^^ Yeah, the red plastic case CPO. And the date on that box indicates the CPO's birthday, not when the original gun was made.


got it makes sense. The date on box Jun 3 2008 and i purchased June 26 2008. appreciate the help
September 30, 2021, 12:13 PM
skywag
My P228 # B123 33X is a KA. The magazines say Sig Sauer on them, but no P228.

Bought new from Kesselring
October 24, 2021, 10:08 AM
.38supersig
quote:
Originally posted by 220parts:
Wondering if the 228 Guru or any SF member has a 228 in 9x21??

Yup!

SIG SAUER P228 CAL. 9X21 BIFILARE + 1C



I've been on a 9x21 spree since I found a stash going for $15 a box.

It goes well with my P250 and P226 Navy that are also in 9x21.




October 24, 2021, 06:15 PM
David Lee
What is that BIFILARE +1C?
October 24, 2021, 06:36 PM
.38supersig
The best translation I could get for 'Bifilare' was 'two wire'.

I can only assume that would be a reference to the recoil spring.

The '+ 1C' is likely 'plus one caricatore (magazine)'




October 24, 2021, 09:21 PM
David Lee
Thank you. I can find similar meaning but is bilifar, sans the e. Where are these markings? Pistols packaging or on the gun and magazine?
October 25, 2021, 06:01 PM
.38supersig
It is on the box label below all of the bar codes.

The magazines are 13 rounds without the 'restricted' stampings.




November 17, 2021, 11:01 PM
Lelandii
Great Thread! I have had it bookmarked for years as I look at different P228 on line. Thanks

I was curious why you have no mention of double action 228s? Was this a law enforcemnt option only or were they available to the public? Are double action the red headed bastard step children nobody talks about? After shooting the KA I just picked up I would understand why. Horrendous trigger. Already have the parts coming to convert and a SRT kit. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge and love for the P228.
November 18, 2021, 01:56 AM
12131
^^^^ Thanks.

You're right, the DAO P228s were made and sold to various LE agencies in the early 90s. They were later turned in and eventually offered on the civilian market.

Welcome to SF. What took you so long to join the conversation?


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November 18, 2021, 06:53 AM
dpast32
Good Morning Folks, I would like to confirm that my old P.228 9x19 is in fact of all West German manufacture ? Honestly, I haven't actually handled it in a few years now, as since Retiring I tend to gravitate towards somewhat smaller handguns for everyday carry. It is Serial # B1460XX KB Proofed. IIRC, it was manufactured in 1991, if I recall. ( Please correct me if I'm wrong ! ) I would simply check all the markings for myself, but it's currently in storage, along with my other Sig's, an P.220 .45 ACP, P.226R-DAK .357 / .40, & P.229R-DAK .357 / .40. If anyone wishes their Serial #'s & Date Codes, please just advise. If any could confirm that my P.228 is of 'all' German manufacture, I'd be much appreciative. THANK YOU !

Best regards, dpast32
November 18, 2021, 07:56 AM
dpast32
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Originally posted by dpast32:
quote:
Originally posted by dpast32:
Good Morning Folks, I would like to confirm that my old P.228 9x19 is in fact of all West German manufacture ? Honestly, I haven't actually handled it in a few years now, as since Retiring I tend to gravitate towards somewhat smaller handguns for everyday carry. It is Serial # B14687X KB Proofed. IIRC, it was manufactured in 1991, if I recall. ( Please correct me if I'm wrong ! ) I would simply check all the markings for myself, but it's currently in storage, along with my other Sig's, an P.220 .45 ACP, P.226R-DAK .357 / .40, & P.229R-DAK .357 / .40. If anyone wishes their Serial #'s & Date Codes, please just advise. If anyone could be so kind as to confirm that my P.228 is of 'all' German manufacture, I'd be much appreciative. THANK YOU !

Best regards, dpast32

November 18, 2021, 08:03 AM
dpast32
quote:
Originally posted by dpast32:
Hello 'again' Gents, I was perhaps a bit too premature in tendering my above Post, requesting the place of manufacture of my particular KB proofed P.228.

After reading over the initial page of this Post, I see that the the information I was seeking is perfectly laid out for anyone to see. Therefore, as I see it, my P.228, Serial # B14687X - KB proofed, was indeed fully manufactured in West Germany, most likely during 1991. This was always amongst my favorite Sig's, 2nd in line, right after my cherished KC proofed P.220 .45 ACP, # G19100X.

So, I offer a huge THANK YOU to '12131 / 'The original redneck', as from what I can determine, he was the initiator of this particular Post, which as I'm certain many others have also found out, is extremely important & relevant to any seeking to learn additional facts regarding their individual Sig-Sauer pistols. THANKS AGAIN !!

Best, dpast32