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Doesn't matter as they are likely carried with an empty chamber. Big Grin

We did in the Navy with M11s. Somethings "they" told us to leave the magazine out as a well, but thats something I wasn't willing to do.

Besides, the best use of a pistol in Afghanistan by an ejected aircrew is to blow your own brains out to prevent capture / rape / sodomy prior to videotaped murder.


We always flew with a round in the chamber. We were issued M-9s with the slide locked back and two full mags. Stuck the muzzle in the clearing barrel, inserted mag, and released the slide. Place the weapon on safe and place in holster.

Note: I retired 5 years ago so things could be different now.



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Some people will do just about anything to not carry Glocks...... ;-D


 
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I’m generally not an advocate of carrying with an empty chamber, but this seems like a situation where it might make sense.

I never had to pull the handle, but always counted on being injured if I did. As such, being able to rack the slide wasn't something I was going to count on if my day was already going bad enough to trade my aircraft for a parachute.

In the early - mid 90's I carried the M9 over Iraq with magazine inserted and round in the chamber with safety on. This was carried in a nylon cloth holster sewn inside a zippered pouch located on the upper right-front of the survival vest. The holster held the M9 with the muzzle pointing directly at my junk which was a slight concern to me. To this day I haven't heard of a pistol discharging or the pouch ripping off during an ejection sequence.

I flew out of Darwin, Australia for 3 weeks in 1994 and we carried the Colt 1911A1. I carried mine with a round in the tube but not cocked & locked. Humans aren't high on the food chain in the Northwest Territory and we actually took a short bush survival class before our first flight to the Delamere Range south of Darwin. The trainers asked what we were carrying and we proudly said "Colt 45's!" Their reply was "If that's all your carrying, your best bet is to find a tree and get in it as high as possible until pick-up." Don't know if they still do, but the Aussie Hornet drivers we flew with were carrying .50 Desert Eagles.




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Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
Doesn't matter as they are likely carried with an empty chamber. Big Grin

We did in the Navy with M11s. Somethings "they" told us to leave the magazine out as a well, but thats something I wasn't willing to do.

Besides, the best use of a pistol in Afghanistan by an ejected aircrew is to blow your own brains out to prevent capture / rape / sodomy prior to videotaped murder.


We always flew with a round in the chamber. We were issued M-9s with the slide locked back and two full mags. Stuck the muzzle in the clearing barrel, inserted mag, and released the slide. Place the weapon on safe and place in holster.

Note: I retired 5 years ago so things could be different now.

Navy Tacair usually carried empty chamber, at least all my deployments. Talking to the older hands, things really seemed to change in the late 90s, no more personal weapons, etc. M11, 2 mags of FMJs was the issued weapon. It was common amongst the gun toting members to bring extra magazines with ammunition of their choice. That wasn't authorized but was tacitly tolerated. Big Grin

Then again, we weren't landing in country, so I'm glad to hear those of you that did were able to carry as you should.
 
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