I received an email yesterday from Edelweiss Arms(Kriss USA), regarding a quantity of Swiss P75s(Swiss Army 9mm P220s) that just became available. These were rated at 95-97% condition and all sold out immediately. I kept going back and forth(being priced at $1,595 ea.), but finally squeezed the trigger and grabbed the last one in stock. There is little to no info out there regarding this recent importation/shipment of Swiss P75s. Does anybody have any info on the history/disposition of these guns and or did any of you guys purchase one?
Swiss Army P75 Pistols
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Wow that is quite pricey, but I wouldn't mind owning one.
I saw those yesterday
To rich for my blood
From the pictures, they looked like Swiss stamped 226's. Am I missing something, or are they just priced as they are for collector value? I can't see paying what I paid for my Allround for a standard 226.
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closer to a 9mm P220 I should think
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9mm P220 with a heel release basically.
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The Pistol 75 is the Swiss Army version of the original 9mm P220. The Pistol 75 is the standard pistol and it’s issued to NCO’s on company level and above, Officers, LRRP, staff and other specialists. Also equipped with this pistol is the Papal Guard in Rome. The pistol is technically identical with the 9mm P220 and all parts are interchangeable. The only difference between the two are the markings, the serial number range as well as proof and acceptance markings. The pistol is not a sealed pattern. It evolved with the commercial type. It has been developed by SIG in Neuhausen between 1964 and 1975, went through several stages of prototyping and was finally manufactured in Eckernförde Germany. The name of the designer is Walter Ludwig. He was involved with the design of the Walther P88 as well.
Swiss service pistols have been assembled in Switzerland from parts made in Germany. Information about manufacturing dates and serial numbers do not exit. Information are under closure by the Swiss DoD. Any credible technical information found on the internet about the 9mm P220 is valid for the Pistol 75 as well. And yes, it’s Plus Pee rated and any type of grease will be fine for maintenance as well.
Excellent, thank you! Now I see why they are priced as they are.
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I’ll pass at that price
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Okay, So they seem kinda pricey if it was in the counter at the local pawn shop, but if you had to shop around and have it imported yourself...
My other Sig is a Steyr...
A P75 is one of my grail guns, but unfortunately I am not willing to pay that price either.
I guess I was told a story because I had heard that P75s could not be imported into the U.S. until they were 50 years old, which would have been 2025 for the early ones - something about being foreign military issued firearm. I believe it was from the importer I contacted a few years ago to see if I could have a P75 imported myself. Back then a Canadian dealer had them for under $800 as I recall.
The commercial Montage Suisse 9mm P220 that I passed on that went for $900 on Gunbroker doesn't look so bad to me now.
I handled a LNIB 9mm heel release P220 with the old style walnut grips at a shop last week. I might go back and snag.....half the price of the P75.
It's not the 9mm caliber and heel release that makes these guns desirable/collectable to some. It is the fact they were actual former Swiss military issued guns with the "A" serial number to prove it plus the P75's ancestor was basically the first SIG Sauer pistol made.
Oh, I get it. But same/same for me.
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Very cool, these are great Sig lineage pieces!
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I spoke to a dealer in Canada a short time ago who has P75s in stock at really low prices. I wanted to pick up a couple of them, but, they wouldn't be able to be imported because he couldn't produce the five year letter that the ATF requires.
I thought hard about that particular Montage Suisse 220 as well, but, thought it was high. I've bought one from him before in excellent condition for $650, IIRC. Should've held onto that one...
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The differences are a different slideshape ( no 45° angles above the slide serrations, dovetail front sight, and there was some models with the magazin release on the side, like the P220-1 45 ACP. The P75 is available in Switzerland for 380-450 Sfr.
toto, like I mentioned above, the P75 is not a sealed pattern. It evolved with the commercial series. The eased egdes bove the serrations has been canceled in the late 80's on all models with cold draw (stamped) slides. You will find P75 with the newly shaped slide above the serrations as well for that reason. The Swiss DoD never accepted the American style magazine button. They all have the classic heel relase.
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