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mbinky, while I'm sure Bruce or Scott will speak for themselves; but "Carry" all stainless 220 is not eligible for conversion; due, if I remember correctly, to increased slide velocity of the Carry over full size? Wouldn't surprise me if they figure out a solution for this sometime down the road?


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I too have been looking into getting some 10mm ammo. I checked ammoman.com and they have Federal American Eagle 10mm FMJ 180 grain FMJ. It's going for $350 for 1000 rounds. What do all of you think of this round and price???



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Bruce, I know you are a busy man, but if you're interested in the Bren Ten, the book "Bren Ten The Heir Apparent" is an interesting read. Towards the end there is an interview with Paul Liebenberg on Geometric Lock Time which I'm sure you are also aware of. Anyway looking forward to being in your second production run.
 
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Bruce, you have already made some recommendations regarding what you would like to see as far as ammo used with the 10mm conversions. Would there be any option to add a compensator to the firearm? I'm not promoting the use of heavy duty loads, but rather thinking that a compensator may very well add to the long term reliability of the gun. Waiting for the call to send in my gun (I'm in the second round) so I have time to ponder such issues.

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mbinky, while I'm sure Bruce or Scott will speak for themselves; but "Carry" all stainless 220 is not eligible for conversion; due, if I remember correctly, to increased slide velocity of the Carry over full size? Wouldn't surprise me if they figure out a solution for this sometime down the road?


Hiya! The laws of physics being what they are, I don't see the 10mm cartridge as suited to anything less than full-sized pistols. That's what .40 is for, in my view. Thanks for the supporting input!

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Bruce, you have already made some recommendations regarding what you would like to see as far as ammo used with the 10mm conversions. Would there be any option to add a compensator to the firearm? I'm not promoting the use of heavy duty loads, but rather thinking that a compensator may very well add to the long term reliability of the gun. Waiting for the call to send in my gun (I'm in the second round) so I have time to ponder such issues.

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Gary,

Thanks, a comp is possible of course, with cosmetics being the biggest limitations. I've never been a fan of comps which don't flow neatly with the slide profile, nor which prevent full disassembly. But, it is technically possible and not that difficult, I reckon.

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TIME FOR A TEASER.

I just got the first P220 ST 10mm back from the refinisher today. OH MAN IT'S SEXY.

I decided it would be mean to tease you with just words, so I took shots with my crappy camera so that you can see them.





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EVIL. Is that the new EBP?



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EVIL. Is that the new EBP?


EBP?????


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EVIL. Is that the new EBP?


EBP?????

EBP = Evil Black Pistol ?
 
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I knew that...... Smile

Yep, that'll be it when it's finished.


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A range report when you get it together would be great. Looking forward to sending you my ST220!!!
 
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Yep, that'll be it when it's finished.
Sure ya did. Wink I think you guys should call it the P220ST 10mm with the EBP package. Big Grin



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I wonder where that gun is going!!
 
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Depends on who's asking.


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Wow! Is that the new tough as nails black coating Bruce has been talking about?
 
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Yep, this is it.


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Does this make you guys drool???????



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Does this make you guys drool???????


Oh, yeah! Good thing those slides are stainless.


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Does this make you guys drool???????
You bet! I see mine in that line-up.



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