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Oriental Redneck
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Btw, just to clarify, I grabbed only the pics, not the actual guns. They ain't mine. Smile
 
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Btw, I should add that the gun itself is excellent, mechanically/functionally. It's all the other stuff that work against it.


I bought on early on. I really like the gun. The grip is bulky, but I don't find that to be an issue for me.

I DID have an issue with the 14-round magazines and have a couple that just will drip out of the gun.
 
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I would be willing to bet that the 227 will be a thing of the past in short order.
Something else to consider jl, you just view the Beretta vids posted here by Ray and compare the function, speed and cyclic rate compared to the plastic 320 shot by him and tell us which piece is a better pistol. That's a very compatent shooter showing us both guns running on a equal corse of fire.


Can you provide a link to the vids?
 
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As the owner of two P227 SAS's, I can say Sig Sauer made a big mistake in discontinuing that model (same thing with the P229 SAS)- it's the smoothest shooting .45 I've ever had. I'd buy another one in a heartbeat if I can find one at a fair price. All I carry are Mec-Gar 10-round magazines and they all function flawlessly.

As a former LEO who started in the 1970's, I recall carrying a 6-shot revolver and having a total of 12 rounds in dump-pouches, so carrying one extra magazine is just fine with me.

Besides, if you need to fire more than 21 rounds in a firefight, you're hanging out in the wrong neighborhood!
 
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I would be willing to bet that the 227 will be a thing of the past in short order.

Not a surprise, seeing that only 2 models are left on SIG's website, the original full-size Nitron and the RX full-size. Probably will disappear by next year.
 
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Btw, just to clarify, I grabbed only the pics, not the actual guns. They ain't mine. Smile

Nah, I got that. But thanks for posting the pics of the grips, hopefully they'll show up here on Freedom's Shores pretty soon. Frankly, I'd like to be able to get a pair attached to a black P226 LDC like in your pic, but they're running around $1600-$1800 and that's a bit thick for me right now, sadly....


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I would be willing to bet that the 227 will be a thing of the past in short order.
Something else to consider jl, you just view the Beretta vids posted here by Ray and compare the function, speed and cyclic rate compared to the plastic 320 shot by him and tell us which piece is a better pistol. That's a very compatent shooter showing us both guns running on a equal corse of fire.


Can you provide a link to the vids?
Not with my phone but he is piedrarc here in Sig Forum. He has a Beretta vid on page 4 in Pistols. He is crossrifles on youtube and IDPA. While he speaks highly of his 320, in that video the gun is sorry assed. Him on the Beretta by contrast.
 
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I would be willing to bet that the 227 will be a thing of the past in short order.
Something else to consider jl, you just view the Beretta vids posted here by Ray and compare the function, speed and cyclic rate compared to the plastic 320 shot by him and tell us which piece is a better pistol. That's a very compatent shooter showing us both guns running on a equal corse of fire.


Can you provide a link to the vids?
Not with my phone but he is piedrarc here in Sig Forum. He has a Beretta vid on page 4 in Pistols. He is crossrifles on youtube and IDPA. While he speaks highly of his 320, in that video the gun is sorry assed. Him on the Beretta by contrast.


Isn't this thread about the P227? I watch Ray's videos too (in fact they 'helped' me to start buying Beretta 92s) but I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Are you comparing the P227 to the P320? From what I can tell Ray does well in matches no matter what he shoots regardless of the 'cyclic rate.'

I would agree that a P227 would be a poor choice for USPSA.
 
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Only because of caliber. I'd still take a .38 Super (or two) if SIG would make them.
 
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I would be willing to bet that the 227 will be a thing of the past in short order.
Something else to consider jl, you just view the Beretta vids posted here by Ray and compare the function, speed and cyclic rate compared to the plastic 320 shot by him and tell us which piece is a better pistol. That's a very compatent shooter showing us both guns running on a equal corse of fire.


Can you provide a link to the vids?
Not with my phone but he is piedrarc here in Sig Forum. He has a Beretta vid on page 4 in Pistols. He is crossrifles on youtube and IDPA. While he speaks highly of his 320, in that video the gun is sorry assed. Him on the Beretta by contrast.


Isn't this thread about the P227? I watch Ray's videos too (in fact they 'helped' me to start buying Beretta 92s) but I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Are you comparing the P227 to the P320? From what I can tell Ray does well in matches no matter what he shoots regardless of the 'cyclic rate.'

I would agree that a P227 would be a poor choice for USPSA.
Yes its about the P227. Enough has been pointed out of its minor qwerks. Its still a fine pistol. I was merely responding to jljones post about its demise because all the guns which should remain viable are polymers. All the effort into the P, and its not a P series gun, 320 and, IMO its still a pig in a poke. Only thing I've ever stated which I like about it is its FCU. The frames are ugly, its grip looks like it belongs on a toilet tank. Its the 250, which is also not a P series, revised. JL Jones states he wants all side arms to be polymer, others dont. It has its foot hold in the markets and there are many excellent defense guns framed in polymer. That seems to be its limit, exception being the 320 X. To me, the 320 is unproven. Now we've saddled our military with them due to modularity. Its just another plastic 9mm. The 320 vid posted last year by Ray clearly shows a gun which is not so good in function. It sounds cheap when slide racked. It sounds cheap at mag change. Its slide seems slow and dragging. Its been worked on a bit by GGI. I just dont like the damn thing. I want all the P227 models. Including a all stainless. But Sig is busy molding.
 
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I tried to love two P227s in my past, they just didn't do it for me, especially when there is a CZ 97 in the safe. No more chubby girl, with a thin waist..lol
 
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Just remember - that P227 "chubby girl, with a thin waist" packs a mean punch! Especially in the SAS version.
 
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[QUOTE] Originally posted by 12131:

"...factory mags (10-rounders) are hard to find. That's the often heard complaint."

That's a specious comment to make - Obviously you haven't looked here - www.topgunsupply.com They have plenty of 10-round P227 magazines available at at $32.95 each.

Having both a P226 and P228, I don't find the E2 grips to be any problem at all. In fact, my P227 SAS's are probably the most comfortable .45 pistol to shoot, and I've owned several 1911's and Colt Commanders to which I can compare.
 
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"...factory mags (10-rounders) are hard to find. That's the often heard complaint."


That's a specious comment to make - Obviously you haven't looked here - www.topgunsupply.com They have plenty of 10-round P227 magazines available at at $32.95 each.

Having both a P226 and P228, I don't find the E2 grips to be any problem at all. In fact, my P227 SAS's are probably the most comfortable .45 pistol to shoot, and I've owned several 1911's and Colt Commanders to which I can compare.

Nothing specious about it. My comment was about the general trend I've seen from folks. You are reporting a point in time. Btw, "specious", that's a big word. This Oriental Redneck had to look it up. Big Grin

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I think its 14 round magazines were specious. The Talo model reported at Shot was a bit stainless specious. Is their a specious Legion coming ?
 
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Just remember - that P227 "chubby girl, with a thin waist" packs a mean punch! Especially in the SAS version.


Meh....
That's all I got to say about that.
I'll take my CZ97 and Commander 1911 any day before a 227 again.
 
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