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I have a P210 and shortly after I got it the captured recoil spring came apart, I called Sig CS and they promptly sent me a new one, gun is fine now.
However a friend of mine called me yesterday and told me his P210 captured recoil rod also came apart, which I told him to call Sig and they would take care of him.
Now the question, is this problem the weak link in the P210, and more importantly will this problem happen again?
Has anyone else experienced this?
 
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what exactly is the "problem". did something break off? if so, what did break and where. in order to make it a problem such information is needed. Thanks for helping us with with further information.
 
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The P938 recoil spring guide rod is a two-piece part, screwed together. They tended to come unscrewed on early models (I think that’s fixed now).

Is the P210 recoil spring guide rod also a two-piece part? Otherwise, I don’t see how it could “come apart”.



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The end cap of the captured recoil rod broke off.
And No, the recoil rod is not a 2-piece rod.
 
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The guiderod assembly does not break on my P210A Standard, and I shoot it quite a bit, matches and what not. But I bought a spare one from Sig and keep it just in case. Anyway, these parts look well made and very durable.

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Which version of P210? There are three, P210 Swiss, P210 Legend, and P210A.

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Hopefully not a thread drift, but if it was a Swiss 210, will the new recoil spring assembly from the 210A work in the older Swiss model?
 
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Wow. My Neuhausen produced recoil spring on my -2 gun (the 9mm one) is only approaching 50 years old now and still ticking away. Guess its about to break any day now? And enough of this crap about the American or German one is just as good. Guess our waiting for such a failure is over. Now we know.


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I've seen reports of the end of the 210A guide rod breaking off. My 210A has about a thousand rounds through it now, and so far,so good. I have to admit though, if it breaks off the next time I shoot it, I would no longer be surprised.

BTW Bonanacroin, No the 210A guide rod assy. will not fit the Swiss or German 210s.


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I've also heard of a number of people having problems with the end of the guide rod shearing off, especially on the P210 Target model, but I think on the Standard as well. I haven't had any problems with my Target model yet, and I absolutely love the gun. So I figured that I'd order a spring assembly upgrade as both a preventative measure, and to help make an already great shooter, even more pleasurable to shoot.

I ordered this from Zahal.org (I have absolutely no affiliation with this company), and I received it in the mail yesterday. It took 12 days to arrive from Greece (from the date I placed the order), which I thought was quite reasonable considering it's the Xmas holiday season. I haven't had a chance to install or try it out yet, but I've heard some great things about this "recoil reduction system".

Here's a link to the spring for the Target model, and please note that they have a few other versions for some of the other 210 models as well: https://zahal.org/product/sig-...-rod-by-dpm-systems/

Note that you can currently get 19% off plus free shipping, if you use the coupon code FINAL19, but I believe that is only valid thru January 2nd.

And here's what I received:




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^^^^ I have the DPM recoil spring system in my Steyr M9-A1 and it runs flawlessly. It's a bit more difficult in the take-down department but I wanted to see if I could reduce the already-low recoil impulse in my Steyr.
Apology for the thread draft, now back to your regular program...
 
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I've also heard of a number of people having problems with the end of the guide rod shearing off, especially on the P210 Target model, but I think on the Standard as well.

Frank


Pinefd, I thought I had been the only one with a P210A Standard in MA, and my pistol has been totally fine. Smile For the amount of money you paid for the DPM Systems Recoil Reduction Spring Rod you can buy 3 brand-new recoil spring assemblies from Sig. And, if it really breaks on you (which I doubt), you get a replacement from Sig warranty for free. Big Grin
It is your money, of course.
 
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I'm guessing the Sig part is a MIM part and the mold or process isn't exactly perfect.
 
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FWIW, I had also read that the recoil spring works fine without the part that broke off with just the spring end inserted into the slide end just like a SIG P226, etc. At least the P210A is not useless if that part breaks off and a replacement can not be had right away.
 
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While that may be true, Sig CS told me specifically do NOT use that as it is, we will send you a new one.
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FWIW, I had also read that the recoil spring works fine without the part that broke off with just the spring end inserted into the slide end just like a SIG P226, etc. At least the P210A is not useless if that part breaks off and a replacement can not be had right away.
 
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Originally posted by jimmy123x:
I'm guessing the Sig part is a MIM part and the mold or process isn't exactly perfect.
Yes, it probably is, and maybe that's why it snapped off.
 
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Originally posted by pinefd:
I've also heard of a number of people having problems with the end of the guide rod shearing off, especially on the P210 Target model, but I think on the Standard as well.
Why would you say "which I doubt" when that's exactly what happened to me and a friend of mine.
Frank


Pinefd, I thought I had been the only one with a P210A Standard in MA, and my pistol has been totally fine. Smile For the amount of money you paid for the DPM Systems Recoil Reduction Spring Rod you can buy 3 brand-new recoil spring assemblies from Sig. And, if it really breaks on you (which I doubt), you get a replacement from Sig warranty for free. Big Grin
It is your money, of course.
 
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^^^^ I have the DPM recoil spring system in my Steyr M9-A1 and it runs flawlessly.

Did you find it appreciably reduced felt recoil?

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For the amount of money you paid for the DPM Systems Recoil Reduction Spring Rod you can buy 3 brand-new recoil spring assemblies from Sig.

Ah, but having a recoil spring assy break on you at an inopportune time would suck and, unless you have a spare on-hand, then you have to wait for the replacement. Plus, if the DPM Systems RRSR really does reduce felt recoil...

The pistol runs around $1500, street price. Even at full price, the $125 is a small (8%) investment. I'm thinking about it.



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Hi Everyone,

I’m on my fourth Gide rod assembly !! The last rod lasted 150 rds. I found the PMS system and ordered it. Should have checked here first. I’ll let you know how it works. I got the last one from Sig several months ago and just used the gun before the holiday. If it was a new type it’s not the fix! Frank
 
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Hi Everyone,

I’m on my fourth Gide rod assembly !! The last rod lasted 150 rds. I found the PMS system and ordered it. Should have checked here first. I’ll let you know how it works. I got the last one from Sig several months ago and just used the gun before the holiday. If it was a new type it’s not the fix! Frank

Yes, please let us know how it works! And what exactly did you order and from whom?
 
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